This Week in Google Alerts: Home Fires

António Pedro Marques · 12 Apr 2012, 18:21 · from 2012-April.txt.gz

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David Stockhoff wrote (12-04-2012 18:35):
> What you are proposing is torture and is globally illegal.

Nonsense.

> Such a person's
> situation is not as different from your own as you think, because if the
> state can torture him, it can torture you. And if it can torture you, it can
> torture me---and that is why I must object.

Yeah, and if it can give them life sentences, it can give you life sentences.

> "Salvageable"! I'll just chalk that up to ignorance, because you're no more
> a psychologist than I am. I guess you missed the parodic quote provided by
> David Duffy. Do you prefer that 99% of convicted murderers of prisoners go
> more or less "salvagably" insane so that one does not go sane?

I don't care at all what happens to murderers. My only concern is for those 
who may have been wrongly convicted.

> Or are you immune to satire as well as shame?
>
> On 4/12/2012 1:22 PM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:
>> David Stockhoff wrote (12-04-2012 17:37):
>>> No. Extended solitary confinement is cruel and unusual and a violation of
>>> international law. It creates vegetables.
>>
>> We're talking about someone who was already serving a life sentence and
>> then committed a brutal murder. Cry me a river. If such an individual
>> becomes a vegetable, tough luck. If it turns out they hadn't committed the
>> crimes after all, there's still a chance they're salvageable.
>>
>>> What did we just discuss regarding lobotomies? It's the same thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/12/2012 12:25 PM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:
>>>> Solitary confinement as punishment for the first murder perhaps?
>>>>
>>>> 2012/4/12 Ant?nio Marques <entonio at gmail.com <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote (12-04-2012 17:09):
>>>>
>>>> I've stayed mostly out of this because I'm actually conflicted
>>>> about
>>>> the death penalty.
>>>>
>>>> I'm against it at a gut level, but ...
>>>>
>>>> What do you do with someone who is in jail for life and commits a
>>>> brutal murder there? You can't exactly give him another life
>>>> sentence.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's solitary confinement.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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