Predictions Re: The Politics Of Gene Wolfe

Marc · 29 Jul 2012, 04:37 · from 2012-July.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:37:23 -0700
Subject: (urth) Predictions Re: The Politics Of Gene Wolfe
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Nor do I. I am merely saying he became less thematically political in fiction after his early efforts.

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From: "Ant?nio Pedro Marques" <entonio at gmail.com>
Sent: Sat Jul 28 17:55:18 MST 2012
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Subject: Re: (urth) Predictions Re: The Politics Of Gene Wolfe

I don't find 'socialism has taken over the free world' in those predictions. 

No dia 28/07/2012, ?s 23:31, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> escreveu:

He was far far more overtly political in his short stories of the early 70s and in Operation Ares, and most of that stuff was not reprinted.  If anything as we get farther away from the bogeyman of socialism actually being the dominant zeitgeist of our time his fiction leaves political obsessions behind for narrative and spiritual preoccupations.  Just my two cents.

--- On Sat, 7/28/12, Gwern Branwen <gwern0 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Gwern Branwen <gwern0 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) Predictions Re: The Politics Of Gene Wolfe
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Date: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 7:18 AM

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Fernando Gouvea <fqgouvea at colby.edu> wrote:
> I'm wondering why you care so much.

I have a long-standing interest in predictions and what they reveal,
which would alone would justify my interest, but besides that...

I care because I wish one of my favorite authors to be an
intellectually respectable author, perhaps along the lines of
Chesterton or Buckley or Charles Murray who I also enjoy reading, and
it's disappointing to me to see that it's not a few allusions or plot
twists that I perhaps was simply misinterpreting or being overly
sensitive to.

And also because people here seem to have a hard time accepting it, so
additional data is welcome; witness the previous attempts to explain
it all away, or in this thread the suggestion that maybe he was joking
or trolling!

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