Seawrack and the Mother

DAVID STOCKHOFF · 01 Oct 2012, 17:38 · from 2012-October.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (DAVID STOCKHOFF)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:38:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: (urth) Seawrack and the Mother
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>________________________________
> From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com>
>To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> 
>Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 12:16 PM
>Subject: Re: (urth) Seawrack and the Mother
> 
>On 9/30/2012 12:12 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>>
>> On 9/30/2012 4:27 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
>>> On 9/23/2012 5:27 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>>>
>>>> It doesn't quite fit. I meant (1) two sexes (a) separate or (b)
>>>> combined, or (2) no sexes, but also pointing out that a single male or
>>>> female seeder/birther/creator isn't really any of those. That is, you
>>>> can't have only one sex. Incest is a bit like two-housed
>>>> hermaphroditism, from this perspective.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think you can have a single sexed creator if the created is the
>>> other sex.
>>>
>> How would that work, exactly?
>>
>> ---If a female creator spawned (through parthenogenesis?) a male creation?
>>
>> ---Or if a female creation developed from a sperm cell?
>>
>> Parent-offspring incest would then follow. It's conceivable, but sounds
>> deliberately perverse, like something Lovecraftian or Milton's Satan.
>
>Are Galatea and Pygmalion incestuous?
>
>
>That's a very interesting question. As I recall, Galatea "created" a stone woman, but he did not love a stone woman. Nor did he give birth to her or even pull her out of his forehead. Rather, he was granted a wish. Venus created her as a woman, and it was this unrelated being that Galatea loved.
>
>So I don't see how that could be said, though Galatea's neighbors might well have wondered. But men and women already exist in the universe and these two people fit neatly into those categories.
>
>Still, the idea of making something sentient and then, er, "loving" it does sound creepy. A better example might be a wizard or a guy with a cloning kit. In which case, incest would be a somewhat abstract but applicable concept, if the creature is able to mate with humans in any real way---if it is human.
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