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Seawrack and the Mother

Craig Brewer · 02 Oct 2012, 14:45 · from 2012-October.txt.gz

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From: cnbrewer at yahoo.com (Craig Brewer)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:45:38 -0500
Subject: (urth) Seawrack and the Mother
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Speaking of Milton, in the creation story of PL, chaos/matter/nature are always feminine. God implants order into the "womb of nature" as he says. It's a matter more of imagery rather than direct characterization, but still interesting.

Don't know how/if that applies to Wolfe. I've always seen interesting analogies between Milton and Wolfe (levels of spirituality/sacredness, matter/spirit monism) but the theologies shouldn't map onto each other in the end for a variety of reasons.

On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:12 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:

> 
> On 9/30/2012 4:27 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
>> On 9/23/2012 5:27 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>> 
>>> It doesn't quite fit. I meant (1) two sexes (a) separate or (b)
>>> combined, or (2) no sexes, but also pointing out that a single male or
>>> female seeder/birther/creator isn't really any of those. That is, you
>>> can't have only one sex. Incest is a bit like two-housed
>>> hermaphroditism, from this perspective.
>> 
>> 
>> I think you can have a single sexed creator if the created is the other sex.
>> 
> How would that work, exactly?
> 
> ---If a female creator spawned (through parthenogenesis?) a male creation?
> 
> ---Or if a female creation developed from a sperm cell?
> 
> Parent-offspring incest would then follow. It's conceivable, but sounds deliberately perverse, like something Lovecraftian or Milton's Satan.
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