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Sergei SOLOVIEV · 28 Nov 2012, 17:59
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From: soloviev at irit.fr (Sergei SOLOVIEV) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:59:23 +0100 Subject: (urth) Hard SF In-Reply-To: <1354123708.80051.YahooMailClassic at web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1354123708.80051.YahooMailClassic at web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50B650FB.4030904 at irit.fr> I had the same impression about sizes. If you find where it was said that the Whorl is ten times smaller than Blue I would be glad to know. Sergei Marc Aramini wrote: > I figure they are more like Earth and Mars. Actually, the size of > Blue is implied somewhere (ten times the size of the whorl in > diameter?) I don't remember exactly where. I always wanted to go back > and see how big it was, but I am sloppy about numbers in that way. > > --- On *Wed, 11/28/12, Sergei SOLOVIEV /<soloviev at irit.fr>/* wrote: > > > From: Sergei SOLOVIEV <soloviev at irit.fr> > Subject: Re: (urth) Hard SF > To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net> > Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 9:23 AM > > About Blue and Green, I often asked myself what kind of orbit they > have. > Is it just like Earth and Moon, but > with much greater eccentricity? And what are the relative sizes? It > seems that gravity on Green is less. > > Another very exotic possibility is that they both orbit the Short Sun > but come periodically very close. > The conjunction has the period of several years! This seems not very > compatible with the > first variant, and may be an argument for the second. > It is very exotic because such orbits would be normally not > stable, but > one can find some very > exceptional particular "resonance" solutions when it remains > stable for > a relatively long time. > > Does the Whorl orbit the Short Sun or the Blue-Green system? > > Maybe this was already discussed? > > Sergei > > Daniel Petersen wrote: > > That's a wonderful thought, Antonin! Is this feasible? (Both > > generally and in the text?) > > > > -DOJP > > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Antonin Scriabin > > <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com > <http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> > <mailto:kierkegaurdian at gmail.com > <http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>>> > wrote: > > > > Do we have any idea just how close Blue and Green get during > > conjunction? I seem to remember that from Blue, Green is > more of > > a spec than a moon, but perhaps they are close enough, or have > > unusually expansive atmospheres, such that during conjunction > > their atmospheres merge and allow the Inhumi to fly from one to > > another. If they are this close though, they would most > > definitely fall under the sway of one another's gravitational > > field, which doesn't seem to be the case. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Lee Berman > > <severiansola at hotmail.com > <http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=severiansola at hotmail.com> > <mailto:severiansola at hotmail.com > <http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=severiansola at hotmail.com>>> > wrote: > > > > > > >David Stockhoff: We're not talking about hard SF here. > > > > Just for the sake of discussion, I'll disagree. Perhaps > Wolfe > > isn't diamond-hard > > but I'd give him ruby- or sapphire- on the MOhs scale. I > think > > he makes a > > sincere attempt in most of his work, as the quote below > > illustrates. > > > > Where fantasy writers are content to give us shape changers > > without explanation, > > Wolfe provides us with a sponge cellular analogy for > Tzadkiel > > and flexible bones > > and muscles, make-up and hypnotic abilities for Inhumi. > > > > If the Inhumi really fly through space I'd want more > than the > > skimpy evidence we > > are provided (and less evidence for their lying nature). > > > > >Nick Gevers: Speaking as an engineer, how might the godling > > be constructed so as to > > >walk as a giant on land, where the undines [submarine > > giantesses] cannot? > > > > >Gene Wolfe: There are a number of ways you could go. First, > > get rid of the notion that > > >the godling is going to be proportioned like a human being. > > Changes in size always mean > > >changes in build. (Dr. Crane touches on that.) A man fifty > > feet tall, proportioned like > > >you or me, would sink into the ground a lot -- had you > > thought of that? Take a look at > > >the really big dinosaurs. Bone density could be increased, > > and the legs and pelvis made > > >more massive, and so on > > _______________________________________________ > > Urth Mailing List > > To post, write urth at urth.net > <http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=urth at urth.net> > <mailto:urth at urth.net > <http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=urth at urth.net>> > > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > <http://www.urth.net/> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Urth Mailing List > > To post, write urth at urth.net > <http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=urth at urth.net> > <mailto:urth at urth.net > <http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=urth at urth.net>> > > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > <http://www.urth.net/> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Daniel Otto Jack Petersen > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Urth Mailing List > > To post, write urth at urth.net > <http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=urth at urth.net> > > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net <http://www.urth.net/> > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > <http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=urth at urth.net> > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net <http://www.urth.net/> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
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