Silk/Horn in the Matachin Tower

Antonin Scriabin · 06 Feb 2013, 14:38 · from 2013-February.txt.gz

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From: kierkegaurdian at gmail.com (Antonin Scriabin)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:38:31 -0500
Subject: (urth) Silk/Horn in the Matachin Tower
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Perhaps "tacked on" was a bit too harsh.  Let's just say that I find *Short
Sun *to be quite a bit less mysterious than its predecessors, and the
insertion of Nessus, the Matachin Tower, etc., adds to that impression.
Starting off *Long Sun *for example, mysteries abound. What is the Whorl?
What time is it?  Who/what are the gods?  Cards?  The Writings? How big is
the Whorl?  Etc., etc., etc.  It took a lot of time, allusion, and build-up
to get there, so when the "Typhon is Pas" moment *did *come, it completely
blew me away.  By the time the *Short Sun *rolls around, however, we know
all these things, and additionally we know the connection between the Red
Sun Whorl and the rest of the elements of *Long Sun.  *The mysteries of
Blue and Green are never presented in a way that made me beyond eager to
find our their solutions ... they seem less fun in comparison to the other
works, partially because we seem to spend quite a bit less time on them
than we did on board the Whorl.  I suppose the focus of *Short Sun *is
intentionally much different, so perhaps it is my fault for expecting
more *Long
*and *New*?


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM, <entonio at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think that Wolfe had thought out the specifics  of the latter
> books when he was writing NS. even if he had, it would have been very
> strange, or even disappointing, if they hadn't changed beyond recognition
> by the time he wrote LS, to the point that they would be more of a
> constraint than a foundation (of course one or two specifics wouldn't be
> out of the question, but more than that seems difficult to me).
> But I must disagree that the Red Whorl chapters are stapled on SS. They
> appear near the end, at a point LS/SS had no commercial need at all of a
> connection to NS. It is there for a purpose, not as an afterthought.
> One may look at it the reverse way: rewrite NS without Typhon. It barely
> seems to change. Then view Typhon as a stapled in reference to the latter
> books.
>
> Ant?nio
>
>
> No dia 06/02/2013, ?s 14:01, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> It also isn't quite clear to me what Silk/Horn looks like at this point in
> the story (I am just nearing the end of *Return to the Whorl *for the
> first time), so that might be hampering my ability to figure this out.  I
> would really love for it to have been somewhat planned from the beginning,
> rather than just tacked on ... these really overt references to *TBONS *are
> taking away from my enjoyment of *Short Sun *a bit.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Daniel Petersen <
> danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt he did.  But I'm open to seeing someone convincingly
>> connect that up.  -DOJP
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Antonin Scriabin <
>> kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there indication in *The Book of the New Sun *that any of the
>>> clients at the time of Severian's childhood might in fact be Silk/Horn?  If
>>> Wolfe had the vision and plan for the "Solar Cycle" in this depth back
>>> while writing *TBONS*, that would be most impressive.
>>>
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