Urth Net

← back to the conversation

Messianic

Jim Jordan · 24 Nov 1999, 10:29 · from urth-v0028.mbox · original

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: Jim Jordan <jbjordan at gnt.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) Messianic
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:29:42
Message-ID: <urth-v0028-0531 at digest.urth.net>
X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0028/0531.shtml
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

At 11:28 PM 11/23/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Nutria wrote:
>
>> I think Wolfe's premise is that before the coming of Christ, the world w=
as
>>ruled by violent and imperialistic empires.
>
>...As opposed to the last two thousand years of European and world history?

	Did it not write fairly clearly that after an initial change the Gospel
only gradually changes things? I thought I made that clear, from my
perspective.
>
>
>> But the Gospel is still there. It's underground -- where Severian
>>encounters the missionaries near the underground sea, where people are
>>buried -- catacombs? It survives in garbled form, as in Dr. Talos's play,
>>as it survives in garbled form in the Long Sun.
>
>Please explain to me how it survives, where we see evidence of this.

	I thought I just did. The reference to the Theoanthropos would be another
example. It's there, but buried.

Nutria


*More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/




An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net