symbols, motifs, and extra textual relevance vs. onomastic onanism

Marc Aramini · 27 Mar 2013, 12:55 · from 2013-March.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 05:55:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: (urth) symbols, motifs,
	and extra textual relevance vs. onomastic onanism
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And no sooner had I posted that, with the claim that Wolfe's normal mode of transposition of seemingly unrelated things implied?a connection, when I looked again at the section where #5 meets?the Black Queen, and it implied she was counterpart to some white queen our narrator would never meet, and the name Aubrey really does mean ruler of the elves or something close, and immediately after he meets his aunt he dreams of the abos with their spears and grass coverings, that very night, he is certain.
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(and she does float down the helical staircase to catch the almost definitely genetically human Number 5 rather easily - evading the natural genetic code to become something?) 
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Oddly enough, her first claim about Veil's hypothesis is to deny it as fifty pounds of theory built on nothing (and a Veil does by definition cover a true face).? She reflects on "perfect" copies and what that implies - and there she has those nonfunctional, tiny legs. So I guess Sean's examination is not entirely based on the French name; I just get turned off by interpretations that rely too much on those kind of possibly unintentional associations.? I do see what he is getting at, but remain a bit skeptical.

--- On Tue, 3/26/13, Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) symbols, motifs, and extra textual relevance vs. onomastic onanism
To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 7:39 PM

This has been discussed before, albeit not in not so elegant a framing as you use here, and I agree with you, but for once I'll take a page from the Bermian book and point out that there's no harm in folks pursuing what analyses best float their boat. The reason I say it is that I feel that, unlike what may happen elsewhere, the potential to hinder more fruitful readings is negligible here, though I can't quite put my finger on why.

No dia 26/03/2013, ?s 17:32, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> escreveu:

> I think there is a difference between symbolism, motifs, and themes and a gnomic and hermetically sealed palimpsest, and that Wolfe is a symbolist with a thematic goal instead of an artist creating postmodern nightmares devoid of a bottom rung of meaning where all possible meanings are equally valid.
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