Thecla's "Identity"

Jerry Friedman · 05 Apr 2013, 17:35 · from 2013-April.txt.gz

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From: jerry_friedman at yahoo.com (Jerry Friedman)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:35:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: (urth) Thecla's "Identity"
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That's interesting.? Do we know that Eliot, Pound, and Tate inspired Wolfe?? And was Pound Catholic?
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Jerry Friedman


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>New Criticism is also appropriate because Wolfe, while primarily inspired by Borges, is also inspired by the Catholic English writing in the 1930's to the 1960's--Tolkien, Eliot, Pound, Tate, etc.-- Modernist-Traditionalist writers, a tradition in which I think Wolfe has a prominent place. The New Criticism was supposed to encourage and analyze this type of writing. "Meaning is reconstruction rather than deconstruction" is actually a beautiful little summary of why this is so. Remember that modernism is not postmodernism (although they are in close relation), and Wolfe is definitely a modernist?writer. 
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>On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:
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>I agree- new criticism (and historical criticism for valid context most of the time) are the most sound and applicable techniques.
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>>I feel like the new critical approach would get the most out of Wolfe- meaning is reconstruction rather than deconstruction. ?For example, Reading e e cummings "anyone lived in a pretty how town" through that lens makes perfect sense, though words are used outside their normal parts of speech- meaning is reinforced rather than lost. Much of post modern thought is intentionally losing one self in a haze, getting trapped in the Cartesian circle with no egress in the absence of absolute parameters of signification.?
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>>On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:07 AM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:
>>They have their own abstract methods, and while they try to make those methods concrete, they also make them inflexible and blind.?
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>>>I always liked New Criticism because I could get my mind around a "perfect" but "perfectly flawed" structure, where function transcends form. But the French guys always lost me at some point.
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