Thea's Identity

Marc Aramini · 11 Apr 2013, 17:55 · from 2013-April.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: (urth) Thea's Identity
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definitely an outcrossing with Jeanine.? whether she is still Jeanine as born or not is exacerbated byVeil's hypothesis and the odd statement that she must stay away from the man representing Mr. Million's original in the dream with his broken neck or he will harm her, though there is no tension "on screen" between Jeanine and Mr. Million in "waking" life.

--- On Thu, 4/11/13, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>
Subject: (urth) Thea's Identity
To: "urth at urth.net" <urth at urth.net>
Date: Thursday, April 11, 2013, 10:02 AM

>David Stockhoff- I wonder if male cloning works differently from female cloning here. 
>For one thing, can a man have a daughter clone?

Well, removing the Y chromosome and doubling the X doesn't seem too difficult. I think
Aunt Jeannine was meant to represent a female clone of Maitre/Number 4 (or was there
some outcrossing there?).

>For another, why is it that we have several clear female clones but the only clear male 
>clones are House Absolute troopers? Are male clones forbidden?

Well, we do have Severian. But I think the female bias on Urth may be literary in nature.
I think Wolfe is most interested in the subjective nature of it. "What is it like to be a
clone?" is a more interesting question for him than "How would Cloning affect society?"

>Are male clones forbidden? Again I ask, was this Catherine's crime? 
>(and if so, why not Odilo's too?

I really don't think cloning is a crime on Urth. I think it may be more of a social 
embarassment...on a par with being the product of incest in our own society. It's something
that happens but you find ways of talking around it..euphemisms like "half-sister" and
"soubrette" ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? 
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