Urth Net

← back to the conversation

Agilus and Agia

António Pedro Marques · 02 May 2013, 13:40 · from 2013-May.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: entonio at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?QW50w7NuaW8gUGVkcm8gTWFycXVlcw==?=)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 14:40:28 +0100
Subject: (urth) Agilus and Agia
In-Reply-To: <16FFDB3C13674D95AC4B223AEF815827@Rover>
References: <BLU175-W4C28048A55FD1FD33A057CFBC0 at phx.gbl><1367423145.41594.YahooMailNeo at web84503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><CAEnJbxB-zpDR7t6-0mFXJWubU-MtaSUmB1S0A3cGhLbDZpKqeQ at mail.gmail.com><518161F3.2060708 at clueland.com><CAEnJbxDpfKaepPwgx4UAG0UaREyMBLx7eNV0fwFRQRnUfozYGQ at mail.gmail.com><51818C22.1080207 at verizon.net><CAEnJbxCHROGWhnTbMez3ayiQud9XvfThtzcbJTrm09NLGjWgeQ at mail.gmail.com><5181A66A.9060806 at verizon.net>
	<CAEnJbxBrEyU0NukEcoTH=sh7B-B1ni_oY3s4G1i1XvYtFOPEhQ at mail.gmail.com>
	<16FFDB3C13674D95AC4B223AEF815827@Rover>
Message-ID: <51826CCC.4040207 at gmail.com>

Gerry Quinn wrote (02-05-2013 12:04):
> It is the New Sun - or Whatever is behind it - which ultimately selects the
> history that brings about its creation.  No personality or group in the
> story, not even the Hierodules, are controlling events.  The New Sun creates
> reality - timelines that are incompatible with it - such as the timeline of
> Master Ash or the first Severian - fade away.
>
> Obviously the Hierodules understand this process, but they themselves are
> moving parts like all the rest.  The tests and trials are as they are
> because that is the series of trials that will create the Severian who
> brings the New Sun.  Agia plays her part, but she is not directly motivated
> in any way to set tests.  But this is the Agia who happens to set the right
> tests.  In other iterations there were other Agias who acted somewhat
> differently and perhaps had more or less success.

It's just that I find this perspective essentially ungreat.


An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net