Agilus and Agia

aaron · 03 May 2013, 13:55 · from 2013-May.txt.gz

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From: aaronsingleton at gmail.com (aaron)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 09:55:15 -0400
Subject: (urth) Agilus and Agia
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And while we're on the Subject of Father Inire, how do you (and anyone else
on the list, as well) pronounce the name?  I find myself reading it as
In-Ire, just like the two words.  The audiobook reader says In-Eerie.  That
makes no sense to me.  Just curious about this.


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM, aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah, Encyclopedia Brown!  I loved those growing up.  I think Rudesind is
> the most blatant Inire-like character.  It is from his mouth we first hear
> the name Fechin, if I'm not mistaken.  It is also Rudesind who knows the
> true context of the Astronaut picture . Rudesind is next seen in the House
> Absolute, seemingly unsurprised at Severian's presence there--as if he
> expected Sev.  It always seemed to me as if Rudesind implies that the House
> Absolute and The Citadel are connected.  There are probably other instances
> of his Inire-y behavior, but I am too lazy at the moment to think of them.
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> >aaron: Anyone have any good theories about Fechin?
>>
>> Good theories? I don't know about that. But I think it is a
>> reasonable guess to think that Wolfe based part of
>> the character on Russian artist Nicolai Fechin. It took some
>> digging but I think I have determined, from younger self-portraits,
>> that both Fechins have red hair.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolai_Fechin
>>
>> http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2142/5732351770_766b0948aa_z.jpg
>>
>>
>> http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2142/5732351770_766b0948aa_z.jpghttp://farm3.staticflickr.com/2142/5732351770_766b0948aa_z.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F8zrQ1ChEuE/USAfEKlT9YI/AAAAAAAAOzs/bzABfvMstzg/s1600/fechin+self+portrait1.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F8zrQ1ChEuE/USAfEKlT9YI/AAAAAAAAOzs/bzABfvMstzg/s1600/fechin+self+portrait1.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F8zrQ1ChEuE/USAfEKlT9YI/AAAAAAAAOzs/bzABfvMstzg/s1600/fechin+self+portrait1.jpg
>> My not-so-good theory is that Fechin is another incarnation of
>> Father Inire. Like Borski, I think that Inire's absence is an
>> invitation for the reader to find him, wherever he might appear,
>> though I do think I have a better explanation for why Inire would appear
>> so many times.
>>
>> The tools we are given to conduct the search are the constellation
>> of things we know about Inire: appearing small, bent, old, monkey-like,
>> an association with art and museums, a lech for young human women, and
>> perhaps a few others. Each appearance of Inire will demonstrate some
>> of the characteristics, but none will display all of them. That's the
>> puzzle I think we are presented.
>>
>> With Fechin we have the characteristics of art, old, monkey-like and
>> the lech. Moreover we have Rudesind as a bridging character between
>> Fechin and Father Inire, speaking of both as though they were his master.
>>
>> (not to ignore that Rudesind himself is small, old, bent, monkey-like and
>> associated with art and museums. Rudesind describes a painting that Fechin
>> made of him when he was a boy. The painting has paintbrushes shown next to
>> him. It is an old mystery-solving trope, e.g. Encyclopedia Brown or
>> Hardy Boys, where the mystery is solved when it is recognized that a
>> painting
>> of someone with paintbrushes is a self-portrait)
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> --
> Aaron Singleton
>



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