Agilus and Agia

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 03 May 2013, 15:28 · from 2013-May.txt.gz

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From: danldo at gmail.com (Dan'l Danehy-Oakes)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 08:28:07 -0700
Subject: (urth) Agilus and Agia
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I pronounce it In-EAR-ay.


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:55 AM, aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> wrote:

> And while we're on the Subject of Father Inire, how do you (and anyone
> else on the list, as well) pronounce the name?  I find myself reading it as
> In-Ire, just like the two words.  The audiobook reader says In-Eerie.  That
> makes no sense to me.  Just curious about this.
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM, aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ah, Encyclopedia Brown!  I loved those growing up.  I think Rudesind is
>> the most blatant Inire-like character.  It is from his mouth we first hear
>> the name Fechin, if I'm not mistaken.  It is also Rudesind who knows the
>> true context of the Astronaut picture . Rudesind is next seen in the House
>> Absolute, seemingly unsurprised at Severian's presence there--as if he
>> expected Sev.  It always seemed to me as if Rudesind implies that the House
>> Absolute and The Citadel are connected.  There are probably other instances
>> of his Inire-y behavior, but I am too lazy at the moment to think of them.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> >aaron: Anyone have any good theories about Fechin?
>>>
>>> Good theories? I don't know about that. But I think it is a
>>> reasonable guess to think that Wolfe based part of
>>> the character on Russian artist Nicolai Fechin. It took some
>>> digging but I think I have determined, from younger self-portraits,
>>> that both Fechins have red hair.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolai_Fechin
>>>
>>> http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2142/5732351770_766b0948aa_z.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2142/5732351770_766b0948aa_z.jpghttp://farm3.staticflickr.com/2142/5732351770_766b0948aa_z.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F8zrQ1ChEuE/USAfEKlT9YI/AAAAAAAAOzs/bzABfvMstzg/s1600/fechin+self+portrait1.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F8zrQ1ChEuE/USAfEKlT9YI/AAAAAAAAOzs/bzABfvMstzg/s1600/fechin+self+portrait1.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F8zrQ1ChEuE/USAfEKlT9YI/AAAAAAAAOzs/bzABfvMstzg/s1600/fechin+self+portrait1.jpg
>>> My not-so-good theory is that Fechin is another incarnation of
>>> Father Inire. Like Borski, I think that Inire's absence is an
>>> invitation for the reader to find him, wherever he might appear,
>>> though I do think I have a better explanation for why Inire would appear
>>> so many times.
>>>
>>> The tools we are given to conduct the search are the constellation
>>> of things we know about Inire: appearing small, bent, old, monkey-like,
>>> an association with art and museums, a lech for young human women, and
>>> perhaps a few others. Each appearance of Inire will demonstrate some
>>> of the characteristics, but none will display all of them. That's the
>>> puzzle I think we are presented.
>>>
>>> With Fechin we have the characteristics of art, old, monkey-like and
>>> the lech. Moreover we have Rudesind as a bridging character between
>>> Fechin and Father Inire, speaking of both as though they were his master.
>>>
>>> (not to ignore that Rudesind himself is small, old, bent, monkey-like and
>>> associated with art and museums. Rudesind describes a painting that
>>> Fechin
>>> made of him when he was a boy. The painting has paintbrushes shown next
>>> to
>>> him. It is an old mystery-solving trope, e.g. Encyclopedia Brown or
>>> Hardy Boys, where the mystery is solved when it is recognized that a
>>> painting
>>> of someone with paintbrushes is a self-portrait)
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Aaron Singleton
>>
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