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Agilus and Agia
António Pedro Marques · 03 May 2013, 17:49
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From: entonio at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Ant=C3=B3nio_Pedro_Marques?=) Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 18:49:33 +0100 Subject: (urth) Agilus and Agia In-Reply-To: <3A074D3B-09E1-4E15-8518-3B6FE4EA30C2 at goosemoon.org> References: <BLU175-W36080314441D4B14DB3094CFBE0 at phx.gbl> <CAEnJbxDe7FyJPCBy3d5=KbSy30-gMgTiy7czff8DJQ13upeTig at mail.gmail.com> <CAEnJbxCkD_Ocq9zA++x2qNQLjeHjHrtjWAk2icLorn5JFozccQ at mail.gmail.com> <CAJ8=rtgxG1ZxC5YpUXRD0ensXAKASm6+GwhB1Mt-55cFt8PTSw at mail.gmail.com> <3A074D3B-09E1-4E15-8518-3B6FE4EA30C2 at goosemoon.org> Message-ID: <DDEF23DA-4E1B-415D-86AA-6C3141CA2791 at gmail.com> Based on Lee Soong, I've mostly assumed unknown names are written as they are pronounced. I can't really use anything else than 'in ire'. I don't find the 'going in' Latin connection linguistically persuasive. No dia 03/05/2013, ?s 18:16, Allan Anderson <rubel at goosemoon.org> escreveu: > I read it as "Ih-NEAR-ay." Let's play with the idea that pronunciations have changed over the millenia! > > On May 3, 2013, at 8:28 AM, "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <danldo at gmail.com> wrote: > >> I pronounce it In-EAR-ay. >> >> >> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:55 AM, aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> wrote: >> And while we're on the Subject of Father Inire, how do you (and anyone else on the list, as well) pronounce the name? I find myself reading it as In-Ire, just like the two words. The audiobook reader says In-Eerie. That makes no sense to me. Just curious about this. >> >> >> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM, aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> wrote: >> Ah, Encyclopedia Brown! I loved those growing up. I think Rudesind is the most blatant Inire-like character. It is from his mouth we first hear the name Fechin, if I'm not mistaken. It is also Rudesind who knows the true context of the Astronaut picture . Rudesind is next seen in the House Absolute, seemingly unsurprised at Severian's presence there--as if he expected Sev. It always seemed to me as if Rudesind implies that the House Absolute and The Citadel are connected. There are probably other instances of his Inire-y behavior, but I am too lazy at the moment to think of them. >> >> >> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote: >> >aaron: Anyone have any good theories about Fechin? >> >> Good theories? I don't know about that. But I think it is a >> reasonable guess to think that Wolfe based part of >> the character on Russian artist Nicolai Fechin. It took some >> digging but I think I have determined, from younger self-portraits, >> that both Fechins have red hair. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolai_Fechin >> >> http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2142/5732351770_766b0948aa_z.jpg >> >> http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2142/5732351770_766b0948aa_z.jpghttp://farm3.staticflickr.com/2142/5732351770_766b0948aa_z.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F8zrQ1ChEuE/USAfEKlT9YI/AAAAAAAAOzs/bzABfvMstzg/s1600/fechin+self+portrait1.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F8zrQ1ChEuE/USAfEKlT9YI/AAAAAAAAOzs/bzABfvMstzg/s1600/fechin+self+portrait1.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F8zrQ1ChEuE/USAfEKlT9YI/AAAAAAAAOzs/bzABfvMstzg/s1600/fechin+self+portrait1.jpg >> My not-so-good theory is that Fechin is another incarnation of >> Father Inire. Like Borski, I think that Inire's absence is an >> invitation for the reader to find him, wherever he might appear, >> though I do think I have a better explanation for why Inire would appear >> so many times. >> >> The tools we are given to conduct the search are the constellation >> of things we know about Inire: appearing small, bent, old, monkey-like, >> an association with art and museums, a lech for young human women, and >> perhaps a few others. Each appearance of Inire will demonstrate some >> of the characteristics, but none will display all of them. That's the >> puzzle I think we are presented. >> >> With Fechin we have the characteristics of art, old, monkey-like and >> the lech. Moreover we have Rudesind as a bridging character between >> Fechin and Father Inire, speaking of both as though they were his master. >> >> (not to ignore that Rudesind himself is small, old, bent, monkey-like and >> associated with art and museums. Rudesind describes a painting that Fechin >> made of him when he was a boy. The painting has paintbrushes shown next to >> him. It is an old mystery-solving trope, e.g. Encyclopedia Brown or >> Hardy Boys, where the mystery is solved when it is recognized that a painting >> of someone with paintbrushes is a self-portrait) >> _______________________________________________ >> Urth Mailing List >> To post, write urth at urth.net >> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net >> >> >> >> -- >> Aaron Singleton >> >> >> >> -- >> Aaron Singleton >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Urth Mailing List >> To post, write urth at urth.net >> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net >> >> >> >> -- >> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >> _______________________________________________ >> Urth Mailing List >> To post, write urth at urth.net >> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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