Agilus and Agia
aaron · 03 May 2013, 20:33
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From: aaronsingleton at gmail.com (aaron) Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 16:33:39 -0400 Subject: (urth) Agilus and Agia In-Reply-To: <BLU175-W376B6F4D54F8F38A77CBF9CFBE0 at phx.gbl> References: <BLU175-W376B6F4D54F8F38A77CBF9CFBE0 at phx.gbl> Message-ID: <CAEnJbxDVXjXZhmKE+UsoreXcNpwzQVFbaFFktBehhWWA7896pg at mail.gmail.com> In-EAR-ay, huh? Makes sense. The meaning of the name's source being entrance seems to jive with Inire's overall agenda, as well. He does create entrances with the specula using some arcane method or other. Good stuff. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote: > >aaron: It always seemed to me as if Rudesind implies that the House > >Absolute and The Citadel are connected. There are probably other > instances > >of his Inire-y behavior, but I am too lazy at the moment to think of them. > > Yeah, that art gallery seems to extend across a very long distance from > Nessus > to the House Absolute. I think the implication is that it is a passageway > which > does not fully exist in real space-time. Severian does compare Inire's > passageways > to the one on Tzadkiel's ship (the one to Brook Madregot). > > The other somewhat funky Inire-Rudesind connection is that Rudesind is the > one who > brings Severian the letter from Father Inire, soon after he is elevated to > Autarch. Inire > is acknowledged to have been in the Ascian jungles to the north, so how > does the letter > manage to find Rudesind so quickly. And if haste was necessary why choose > old Rudesind > to deliver it? If Rudesind isn't really an old man and in fact is Father > Inire himself, > those questions disappear. > > Also is the unexpected and cryptic announcement at this meeting by > Rudesind that he is > the "advocate for the dead". Where does that come from? Pretty mysterious > but perhaps > the answer lies in this excerpt from Wikipedia on Dionysus: > > >His cult is also a "cult of the souls"; his maenads feed the dead through > blood-offerings, > >and he acts as a divine communicant between the living and the dead.[13] > > >Dan'l Dannehy-Oakes: I pronounce it In-EAR-ay. > > Heh, me too. Borski identifies Inire as a Latin name, along with The > Cumaean, Famulimus and > Barbatus, which I agree does perhaps imply some sort of kinship among > these beings. I think > Borski identifies "inire" as a form of the verb meaning "to enter". > Personally I don't > think he goes far enough with this, ignoring that a more specific meaning > is "sexual > entrance" and is associated with the god Inuus (known for beastiaity), who > is an epithet of > Faunus who is associated with Pan (Pas) and Quadrofrons/Janus who are all > associated with > Dionysus. Add those to "the Green Man" and (the Town That Forgot) Fauna > and a couple others > and you have a nice collection of Dionysian references across the 12 book > Sun Series. > > (FWIW, inuus is also a species of non-tailed, baboon-like monkeys called > barbary apes) > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > -- Aaron Singleton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20130503/4bbb22c8/attachment-0001.htm>
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