S.R. Delany's "Neveron" Stories

Jerry Friedman · 25 Jul 2013, 13:32 · from 2013-July.txt.gz

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From: jerry_friedman at yahoo.com (Jerry Friedman)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 06:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: (urth) S.R. Delany's "Neveron" Stories
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> From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com>

>From: Fred Kiesche
>
>> Anybody know if Samuel R. Delany is a fan of Gene Wolfe? I'm seeing parallels
>> in pacing, "feel" between the New Sun and SRD's "Neveron" stories and books.
>> Or are both just influenced by (for example) Borges?
>
>Common interests seem more likely.

Though the influence of Proust and other French classics seems possible and might have a lot to do with similarities of pacing and feel.? Also, Wolfe has said he admires Nabokov, and Delany started his latest novel (see below) with a quotation from Nabokov.? Another common interest or influence is the pulps.

In some ways, Wolfe is the anti-Delany, though.? I don't think that Wolfe has any interest in the structuralist and post-structuralist literary theory that's a basic part of Delany's worldview, or that Delany has any interest in the religious and mystical ideas that are a basic part of Wolfe's.

> Delaney was mostly writing before Wolfe - 

Good point, though theNeveryon (Nev?r?on) books were after TBotNS.? (I'm pointing out the spelling with the y because it's "never" + "yon".)

> I think he's been writing mostly autobiographies and gay porn since the '80s.? He has a new SF novel out recently,

Thanks, I might have to read that.

Am I the only person here waiting for _The Splendor, the Misery, of Bodies, of Cities_?

> though the Tor review suggested it is for the strong of stomach.

According to Wikipedia, but with a "citation needed" tag, he's said he wanted it to straddle the lines between literature, science fiction, and pornography.

Jerry Friedman
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