"been teaching literature for over 35 years"

David Stockhoff · 05 Sep 2013, 22:42 · from 2013-September.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 18:42:48 -0400
Subject: (urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years"
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Here's another gem:

"(Let?s set aside the morality of investing our interest in a character 
who tortures people. Remember, the violence in Wolfe is partially 
influenced by the overt violence in the early 1980s of Orson Scott Card. 
*Card?s touch is everywhere in these books.*)"

On 9/5/2013 6:36 PM, Christopher Simon wrote:
> "Bujold tips her hand in the eloquence of her language (normally a 
> good thing) and the attention to detail that only women would find 
> attractive: balls, courts, military dress, palace intrigues, 
> gossiping, and whispering in the corridors."
>
> Kinda sexist too, isn't he?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Jeff Wilson <mailto:jwilson at clueland.com>
> Sent: ?9/?5/?2013 5:52 PM
> To: urth at urth.net <mailto:urth at urth.net>
> Subject: (urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years"
>
> Paul Cook has a ranty go at books he doesn't consider SF, including BOTNS.
> He considers the presence of medieval and Arthurian tropes with poor sfnal
> world building like the Urth failing to wobble from the lack of a moon
> (!!) to be false advertising.
>
> http://amazingstoriesmag.com/2013/09/science-fiction-science-fiction/
>
> Alas, the site editor has blocked comments after a torrent of
> coutner-ranting, but has offered to publish a suitably impersonal
> counter-column submission.
>
> Would anyone like to join me in compiling some quotes and citations that
> poke holes in some of his underinformed opinions?
>
> in particular:
>
> - there's no moon, so the earth should wobble
> - vulcanism has ceased
> - mountain raising (tectonics) has ceased
> - extreme antiquity (millions or billions of years)
> - subduction zones have stopped removing carbon from the atmosphere
> - events in vast antiquity not referred to, antiquity "not used"
> - "Book Two has a long fairy tale inserted in the middle of the novel
> that goes absolutely nowhere and adds nothing to the novel"
>
> It would be best to stick to the original 4 volumes and the pre-Urth
> short-stories if we can.
>
> -- 
> Jeff Wilson - < jwilson at clueland.com >
> A&M Texarkana Computational Intelligence Lab
> < http://www.tamut.edu/cil >
>
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