"been teaching literature for over 35 years"
David Stockhoff · 08 Sep 2013, 12:41
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 08:41:41 -0400 Subject: (urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years" In-Reply-To: <1378614309.6288.YahooMailNeo at web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <52290769.660c320a.7def.fffff916 at mx.google.com> <1378442246.57552.YahooMailNeo at web124504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1378489682.63899.YahooMailNeo at web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <522A4070.4070407 at irit.fr> <5B8EEAEF-B206-4F5D-A277-349B6C60AD19 at gmail.com> <1378614309.6288.YahooMailNeo at web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <522C7085.3060202 at verizon.net> On 9/8/2013 12:25 AM, Jerry Friedman wrote: > Well, he might justifiably ask, if Wolfe intended plate tectonics to exist on Urth, how it makes the book better for Severian to tell us that it stopped. To improve the dying-earth atmosphere? I'm intrigued by Jeff's idea: The slowing of geology processes and the refrigeration of the earth in somewhat of a historical time scale was once the current scientific thought in the 19th century (Bellamy mentions it in LOOKING BACKWARD), so the idea has a reason to be present and for the estimated time necessary to be reckoned past, however mistakenly by the characters. We've seen plenty of evidence that Wolfe gleaned gems from the historical trash heap of incorrect comprehensions of the physical universe in writing BNS. In fact, one could take it a step further and say that his universe is entirely created from such pulpy cliches--- by which I mean to make a direct literary connection, because the pulp SF Wolfe admires, from Cthulhu to, I don't know, maybe Flash Gordon and beyond, consists almost entirely of disproven scientific assumptions. Look at how the surface environment of Venus has been (mis)conceived throughout the history of SF. ---knowing full well that they do not fit well together. Two other well-known cases of this are Severian's comments about geological strata and the various genetic theories of 5HC, which Lee has identified as BNS's thematic precursor. Would this not, in Wolfe's thinking, parallel all the valid but imperfect understandings of the *nonphysical *universe? It's all the same, on other words---the science we believe today will be the superstition of tomorrow. So yes, it makes the book better. Also, "death" is perhaps a relative term on a geologic time scale. In our time, small volcanic islands are created before our eyes. In Severian's, this may no longer occur, but the plates could experience settling for quite some time after the primary tectonic activity has either ceased or simply decreased enough that most people assume Urth is dead, because all the volcanoes are. Thus the earthquakes in Typhon's time. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20130908/4b679584/attachment.htm>
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