"been teaching literature for over 35 years"
Gerry Quinn · 09 Sep 2013, 13:50
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From: gerry at bindweed.com (Gerry Quinn) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:50:09 +0100 Subject: (urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years" In-Reply-To: <522DC31E.5030107 at verizon.net> References: <52290769.660c320a.7def.fffff916 at mx.google.com><1378442246.57552.YahooMailNeo at web124504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><1378489682.63899.YahooMailNeo at web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><522A4070.4070407 at irit.fr><5B8EEAEF-B206-4F5D-A277-349B6C60AD19 at gmail.com><1378614309.6288.YahooMailNeo at web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><522C7085.3060202 at verizon.net><D75A571ED1584BAF8820AA540F92E8CF@Rover><522CA3B6.70903 at verizon.net><0398640b3bd4fdc0229df649e074727b.squirrel at webmail.prismnet.com><1378703957.73667.YahooMailNeo at web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><BDD66FCCDD7B4949ADF7A85B5195143A@Rover><522DB883.6040101 at clueland.com><D263433829BF4B73BC8A9442F1D5BCCF@Rover> <522DC31E.5030107 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <3B8A57D138FB49D397A107B34035511C@Rover> From: David Stockhoff On 9/9/2013 8:42 AM, Gerry Quinn wrote: > > > It doesn't matter (in engineering terms) whether stuff that reaches the > > event horizon goes somewhere else or not (that's kind of the definition > > of an event horizon). But an accretion disk outside the Schwarzschild > > radius is just standard dynamics for any super-condensed object. At a > > distance of several Schwarzschild radii, Newtonian physics will be > > reasonably accurate (albeit not in detail). > Which is why I don't like the idea that the object has non-Newtonian > effects outside/beyond the Sun. Well, it could emit penetrating particles that have a heating effect when absorbed by matter. Say it emitted a large pulse of particles similar to neutrinos, with a sufficiently small capture cross section that they could go through the Earth without much attenuation, but still much more absorbable by matter than neutrinos. If you give them a penetration depth of several Earth diameters, then for every 10^12 tons or so mass-equivalent emitted in this form from the sun, you would heat the Earth by one degree. A few hundred times that amount emitted over a period of might be enough to restart tectonic activity. However, you then have the problem that it needs to be emitted over a rather long period, or the seas would boil, and the land would also become uncomfortably hot. I think however if this radiation was absorbed chiefly by iron and similar heavy metals, life-threatening consequences would be mitigated, especially if the pulse lasted a few hours. (This should also prevent dramatic consequences for Jupiter and Saturn. Skuld might have problems, though, if it is still inhabited.) - Gerry Quinn
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