"been teaching literature for over 35 years"
Jerry Friedman · 09 Sep 2013, 14:57
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From: jerry_friedman at yahoo.com (Jerry Friedman) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 07:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: (urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years" In-Reply-To: <7db9e38a45bbb13e97148edcdcd9e9e6.squirrel at webmail.prismnet.com> References: <52290769.660c320a.7def.fffff916 at mx.google.com><1378442246.57552.YahooMailNeo at web124504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><1378489682.63899.YahooMailNeo at web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><522A4070.4070407 at irit.fr> <5B8EEAEF-B206-4F5D-A277-349B6C60AD19 at gmail.com><1378614309.6288.YahooMailNeo at web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <522C7085.3060202 at verizon.net> <D75A571ED1584BAF8820AA540F92E8CF@Rover> <522CA3B6.70903 at verizon.net> <0398640b3bd4fdc0229df649e074727b.squirrel at webmail.prismnet.com> <1378703957.73667.YahooMailNeo at web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7db9e38a45bbb13e97148edcdcd9e9e6.squirrel at webmail.prismnet.com> Message-ID: <1378738636.42906.YahooMailNeo at web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com> > On Mon, September 9, 2013 00:19, Jerry Friedman wrote: >> Seems reasonable.? It's certainly not from increased solar flux.? > However, >> that would be a LOT of energy.? I'd wonder whether anybody at all could >> survive. > > Indeed, the Yesodis don't expect them to survive, which is why they settle > the renewed earth with new people. Good point. ? >> I think that a black hole, even as currently understood, would cool the >> sun if it were significantly cooler than the temperature of the interior >> of the sun.? You can have some fun at > <http://xaonon.dyndns.org/hawking/>. > > It's really not fair to hold Wolfe to the standards of another 3-4 decades > of theoretical physics. That's why I said "even as currently understood".? I was just thinking about what might happen with current physics, as I take it Gerry was too, not holding Wolfe to anything. > We no longer have the expectation of transcending > space and dimension as when the Book was being written. I don't remember that we did then--did we? ? >> Wait, I thought the black beans grew into the sea monsters, which is why >> the woman had to throw them into the sea (instead of just dropping them on >> the ground) to make them effective.? Robert Borski speculated along these >> lines. >> >> http://books.google.com/books?id=HykyT4UQ9JMC&pg=PA93 >> >> Anyway, it would make literary sense if whoever or whatever made the sun >> cool also stopped plate tectonics (if it's stopped), and if the process >> that fixed one also fixed the other. > > I think it's a stretch when she throws them on the *sun*'s grave. I'm not following.? What's a stretch?? What's the sun's grave? Jerry Friedman
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