"been teaching literature for over 35 years"
Jerry Friedman · 11 Sep 2013, 16:46
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From: jerry_friedman at yahoo.com (Jerry Friedman) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: (urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years" In-Reply-To: <522FB2C9.4000602 at clueland.com> References: <52290769.660c320a.7def.fffff916 at mx.google.com><1378442246.57552.YahooMailNeo at web124504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><1378489682.63899.YahooMailNeo at web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><522A4070.4070407 at irit.fr> <5B8EEAEF-B206-4F5D-A277-349B6C60AD19 at gmail.com><1378614309.6288.YahooMailNeo at web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <522C7085.3060202 at verizon.net> <D75A571ED1584BAF8820AA540F92E8CF@Rover> <522CA3B6.70903 at verizon.net> <0398640b3bd4fdc0229df649e074727b.squirrel at webmail.prismnet.com> <1378703957.73667.YahooMailNeo at web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7db9e38a45bbb13e97148edcdcd9e9e6.squirrel at webmail.prismnet.com> <1378738636.42906.YahooMailNeo at web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <522FB2C9.4000602 at clueland.com> Message-ID: <1378917976.33867.YahooMailNeo at web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Jeffery Wilson jwilson at clueland.com ... >>>>???I think that a black hole, even as currently understood, would cool the >>>>???sun if it were significantly cooler than the temperature of the interior >>>>???of the sun.? You can have some fun at >>> <http://xaonon.dyndns.org/hawking/>. >>> >>> It's really not fair to hold Wolfe to the standards of another 3-4 decades >>> of theoretical physics. >> >> That's why I said "even as currently understood".? I was just thinking about >> what might happen with current physics, as I take it Gerry was too, not holding >> Wolfe to anything. >> >>> We no longer have the expectation of transcending >>> space and dimension as when the Book was being written. >> >> I don't remember that we did then--did we? > >A popular treatment in print was THE IRON SUN: ACROSS THE UNIVERSE WITH >BLACK HOLES??? (ISBN 0525134905, 9780525134909). Disney did a film called >THE BLACK HOLE, and Blue Oyster Cult had >? some airplay with "Heavy Metal, Black and Silver". Oh, okay.? I think that at the time, the theory that black holes might lead to other universes (or other parts of this one), where they might be white holes, was still current.? I think the theory of black hole radiation, in which black holes and white holes?are the same thing, was also available (developed by Bekenstein in 1972 and Hawking in 1974). ? >>>>???Wait, I thought the black beans grew into the sea monsters, which is why >>>>???the woman had to throw them into the sea (instead of just dropping them on >>>>???the ground) to make them effective.? Robert Borski speculated along these >>>>???lines. >>>> >>>>? http://books.google.com/books?id=HykyT4UQ9JMC&pg=PA93 >>>> >>>>???Anyway, it would make literary sense if whoever or whatever made the sun >>>>???cool also stopped plate tectonics (if it's stopped), and if the process >>>>???that fixed one also fixed the other. >>> >>> I think it's a stretch when she throws them on the *sun*'s grave. >> >> I'm not following.? What's a stretch?? What's the sun's grave? > > >I'm thinking it's figurative reference like, "I feel like someone is >walking on my grave." Are you trying to frustrate me, or did I miss a post about "the sun's grave"?? What's a figurative reference like that line? ? Jerry Friedman
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