Ash

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 13 Sep 2013, 20:06 · from 2013-September.txt.gz

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From: danldo at gmail.com (Dan'l Danehy-Oakes)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:06:11 -0700
Subject: (urth) Ash
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Embrace the power of "and."


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>wrote:

> I've long wondered about the significance of the name of Master Ash and
> his cryptic reference to Vine.
>
> I've found one likely reference in Norse mythology, in which the first
> man and woman were named Ask and Embla, which translate in English to
> ash tree and elm tree, but alternatively Embla can be vine or liana.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ask_and_Embla
>
> Given Ash's association with Ragnarok, Norse seems like a likely source.
>
> But I just bumped into a tantalizing alternative. One of the most ancient
> Egyptian gods was named Ash, and as god of the desert oases, he was also
> the
> god of the vine. As a desert god he was also associated (sometimes
> sexually)
> with Typhon Set, the god of desert storms.
>
> I guess I still think the Norse inspiration is mostly likely the primary
> one. But it is hard to dismiss a nominative clue which relates to both
> Typhon and The Outsider/Dionysus.
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