Just discovered this list

Marc Aramini · 09 Nov 2013, 13:18 · from 2013-November.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 06:18:01 -0700
Subject: (urth) Just discovered this list
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Just for the sake of putting them here, here are the textual quotes.  This is from an old post Gerry responded to with his belief Kypris and Mamelta are not a good fit, and that the language of the dreams is not literal but metaphorical.  I argue everything in wolfe is metaphor, especially things like "gods" in the tunnels. There are gods in there, literally and metaphorically.

Old post: vision on page 534 of Litany of the Long Sun "the woman who slept in the glass tube, the tube in which he himself now slept beside Chenille, who was Kypris, who was Hyacinth, who was Mamelta, with Hyacinth's jet-black hair," Chenille and Hyacinth were both possessed by Kypris - and since Mamelta has Hyacinth hair, and Kypris had Hyacinth hair, and they are all related here, I figured it would be neat if Mamelta were Kypris. Then I found this bit of niftiness: p 424 "But quite soon now, as the swift floater sailed over a landscape grown liquid, his mother would come to kiss him good-night; he liked to be awake for it, to say distinctly, 'good night to you, too Mama,' when she left. He resolved not to sleep until she came" Here, Silk resolves not to sleep until his mommy comes (here, it is Mama). Well, who does he meet in the next chapter?  Mamelta! And later, what do we get in Epiphany of the Long Sun (Calde,actually) on page 220: "The Outsider was the dancing man on a toy, and the water the polished toy-top on which he danced with Kypris, who was Hyacinth and Mother, too." Kypris is Mother!  and she is probably Mamelta, too. Now I understand why the Mamelta scene is so familiar - it is like the Dorcas scene in Shadow of the Torturer - except instead of Grandma, we get Silk's mom! In the scene where he leaves his body, I am certain that the tall man with blue eyes is Pas, and the mother (not the one who raised him) was Mamelta.

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