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Marc Aramini · 09 Nov 2013, 23:16 · from 2013-November.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 15:16:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (urth) Just discovered this list
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On Saturday, November 9, 2013 1:14 PM, Darrell Burgan <darrell.burgan at gmail.com> wrote:

I'm going to have to wrap my head around this complex family tree. I still haven't even figured out what the real relationship between Silk and Horn is. Like I said, I have a long way to go. 

I have been looking for a one post summation from years ago of my Silk-Horn scheme, but I think it was probably during the missing year of the Urth net.? In addition, my Tree-Corn, Silk-Horn, and the Whorl-Word Riddle of Short Sun has disappeared from online after about a decade, so I can't refer you to that (does anyone have a saved copy of that?)

I will attempt to paraphrase a bit.? The end of Nightside the Long Sun involves Horn imitating Silk.? After Horn's goodbyes in "On Blue's Waters", the last chapter, Silk says, I caught the ball, I won the game; I should have been more positive in describing this or that.? It is Silk pretending to be Horn after that point because he can't accept that his student has just sacrificed himself for the teacher.? The narrative immediately shifts from 1st person past to more concerned with 1st person present tense In Green's Jungles, and the stories told about Horn identify him as "he" in the story contest - Horn is no longer really in there, just a fragment.? The majority went to ride a beast with three horns at the last chapter of OBW, when he sits under the big tree, and Babbie shows up.? The last few chapters of RTTW show Babbie interacting with Horn's son and trying to point at his tusks/horns.? The beast has three horns: two tusks and Horn himself
 riding him - that is where Horn winds up.? The mechanism is the large tree, a vanished God.

going to go quickly here:
Windcloud got to know Silk and Horn because they both lived in his house for a time, possibly the "hus" Babbie (hus as in huswife/housewife). Pig carried Silver Silk in him and the eye is necessary to get the fragment out (and back to Silk's body, too?), Babbie winds up carrying most of Horn in that scene at the end of On Blue's Waters, our narrator changes from 1st person Horn with dominant control of narrative to Silk in denial with fragment of Horn left at that particular point, in IGJ the depiction of Horn's time on green is now in 3rd person and the 1st person narrative is mostly present tense and preachy preachy preachy, clearly Silk. - The Rajan is a god insofar as Silver Silk is. Pretty sure that the flashing lights at the end of RTTW indicate silver silk is returning to Silk's body, which has been animated by Horn, and will be mixed until the end of OBW.

The vanished god is the big tree he sits under that lets Horn say "good-bye"

So Silk tries to kill himself, succeeds more or less, Horn gets shoved into his body as he dies on Green, then gets a reboot of Silk from Pig, and during the narration of On blue's Waters he is Silkhorn, and then at the end of OBW he becomes Silk in denial, who doesn't admit it until he goes home to Nettle and realize that it isn't his home, and finally acknowledges at the trampled Hyacinth flower that he is Silk.

Much more going on there, with the vanished Gods/cannibal trees and their parental hybrid relationship to the Vanished People/Neighbors and also the liana vines, which are primitive inhumi and the method by which the narrator can do astral travel without an inhuma (his liana staff walks at night in Dorp - it is a primitive inhumi).

Lots of stuff going on in Short Sun; the first chapter discussion of corn hybridity is key, as is the eucharist scene witnessed by only the trees at our narrator's back.    
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