Foucault
Jonathan Laidlow · 17 Dec 1999, 12:09
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From: "Jonathan Laidlow" <LAIDLOJM at hhs.bham.ac.uk> Subject: (urth) Foucault Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:09:39 GMT Message-ID: <urth-v0028-0638 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0028/0638.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeremy also wrote: "So what F. challenges is not the author as individual who writes, but auth= or as unified=20 idea. We should be looking at the system of dispersion of discourse, its di= scontinuities,=20 how it ebbs and flows together. You already provided a good summary of the = author- function (must cut and paste into myown notes!)." Precisely - the author, as well as being a physcial being who writes, is al= so a constructed=20 feature of discourse, which works on some levels to control the reception o= f that=20 discourse - hence my suggestion of the very different ways we might read Ki= lgore Trout's=20 'BotNS'. Your quote from Foucault looked excellent - I've been searching fo= r more=20 discussion of the Author Function, is it readily available in a collection?= I'd be grateful if=20 you'd send me more details privately (vacation email to: ultan01 at yahoo.co.u= k) On Materiality of the book Jeremy said: "Well the only thing I can think of is how certain texts might be seen to b= evalorised by=20 receiving expensive bindings and illustration plates." Its a bit more than that in my own research - stems from the belief that ra= ther than read=20 works as the genius outpourings of a solitary figure we should recognise th= e influence and=20 importance of editors, publishers, artists, type-setters and so forth in th= e process of=20 production. Sterne is an interesting figure because, like Blake but on a co= mmercial level,=20 he chose to keep tight control over the appearance of his books - choosing = the format=20 (octavo), layout, and special features (wobbly lines, black pages, use of f= ootnotes=20 merging with the main text). One Sf example might be Alfred Bester's 'Stars= my=20 Destination' (or is it the Demolished Man) which plays with concrete poetry= later on, and=20 was butchered by editors at one point. Now happily restored. The point is t= hat meaning=20 does not just come from one source - whether that be the author's stated pu= rpose, or the=20 linguistic units on the page. The argument continues in the debate in the 80s over the 'correct' edition = of Joyce's=20 Ulysses, which started from the principle that Joyce's aims had been misrep= resented in=20 the original published edition because of editorial interference. A 'correc= ted' text duly=20 appeared. This was then lambasted by a scholar who argued that Joyce had be= en=20 working with the publishers to insert jokes and other references in the pub= lished edition. I=20 forget the exact details, but one of them was the appearance of a number in= the text that=20 corresponded to the page that it appeared on. " On theother hand, there is a more underground literature (not, after F., = theVictorian=20 again!) which might "mask" its interior (anyone read the SixteenPleasures?)= . This was=20 Clute's idea in that Salon piece I guess. You have toknow the "code" to acc= ess the=20 material, and there is a certain jargon,look, illustration type, etc that s= ignals to the=20 cognoscenti. So there is a"discourse" to the appearance of the book which c= an exclude=20 or filteraccess. Well, maybe not! You'll have to tell us more about your wo= rk..." I seem to remember an argument that Oscar Wilde's plays, while performed in= the=20 mainstream London theatres, also contained lots of jokes which old made sen= se to the=20 turn of the century London gay culture. As these were deliberately designed= not to be=20 understood by the 'ordinary' audience, there was some debate about whether = these=20 sections should be spelt out in modern editions of the plays, or left for t= he reader to take=20 or leave. Right, I'm finishing work now until the new year. I should have sporadic ac= cess to my=20 Uni account via the web and will keep checking the Urth and Whorl lists. Sh= ould any of=20 you like to contact me, it would be best to use my yahoo email account,=20 ultan01 at yahoo.co.uk Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays and have a fantastic New Year if I don't get= back to=20 the list. Jonathan Visit Ultan's Library - A Gene Wolfe web resource http://members.tripod.co.uk/laidlow/index.htm Jonathan Laidlow University of Birmingham, UK *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/
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