Short Story 64: When I was Ming the Merciless

Marc Aramini · 13 May 2014, 03:17 · from 2014-May.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at gmail.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 20:17:51 -0700
Subject: (urth) Short Story 64: When I was Ming the Merciless
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Yes, I see that you are right - that it is the raped women who supposedly
liked it who wanted to join.  The unclear pronoun reference in Wolfe -
Fifth Head and Long Sun make an art of that.  I was looking at the whole
passage and the spirit of the yellows kind of taking over things possession
style to explain the impulse that takes over the men, but you and Dan'l are
most assuredly correct here.  Sorry.


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Tony Ellis <tonyellis69 at btopenworld.com>wrote:

> Marc Aramini wrote
> >"Some of the men said that
> >they really liked it, underneath, but I don?t think so.?
>
> >This dominant, conquering, raping ?impulse? is given flesh, and the
> >implication is that the leader, with all his self-justification, still
> >implies that no one really likes it, but it happens of itself.
>
> I suppose you could read it either way, but I think when the narrator
> says "Some of the men said that they really liked it," 'they' refers
> to the women, as it does in the previous sentence. The men were
> trotting out the old bullshit excuse that their victims wanted to be
> raped.
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