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May 2014 Wolfe interview in _Technology Review_

Gerry Quinn · 07 Aug 2014, 13:44 · from 2014-August.txt.gz

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From: gerry at bindweed.com (Gerry Quinn)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:44:28 +0100
Subject: (urth) FW: May 2014 Wolfe interview in _Technology Review_
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On 06/08/2014 13:18, Gerry Quinn wrote:
>
> On 05/08/2014 18:50, Tony Ellis wrote:
>> Actually, they [Shadow Children]  do crop up a few times in the third 
>> novella. As well as the various references to child-sized indigenous 
>> people, there is: "...and the Shadow Children of course came to steal 
>> by evening... there are never as many of them as they think, because 
>> some are only in the minds of others..." - VRT, interviewed by 
>> Marsch. and "The question is not, as I once thought, how much the 
>> thoughts of the Shadow Children influence reality, but how much our 
>> own do." - VRT's writings, sometime after incarceration.
>
> Fair enough.  The last one is interesting.  He immediately references 
> the original Marsche's interview with Mrs. Blount, in which she 
> describes playing with abos as a child, and her father shooting some.  
> I'm not sure how that fits with his observation above.

This part is also where he points out some difficulties with Veil's 
hypothesis and finishes with "I call it Liev's Postpostulate.  I am Liev 
and I have left."

I think perhaps he is referring to the near genocide of the aborigines 
by the second and third waves of human colonists.  (The first wave, who 
became the Shadow Children, were assimilated - they 'went native', one 
might say.)  Liev is Veil in reverse.  Genocide of the aborigines as the 
opposite of genocide of the humans.  (Can one call it genocide if 
invaders from space are obliterated? Perhaps not.)

- Gerry Quinn


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