Overthinking/Underthinking "The Fifth Head of Cerberus"
Marc Aramini · 16 Aug 2014, 23:54
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From: marcaramini at gmail.com (Marc Aramini) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:54:09 -0700 Subject: (urth) Overthinking/Underthinking "The Fifth Head of Cerberus" In-Reply-To: <53EFE6A3.60703 at bindweed.com> References: <BLU175-W368881EAC0C9DF35A2272BCFEB0 at phx.gbl> <53EF892D.10309 at bindweed.com> <CAF1072wc22gEQJQ77noZ+Mt8aHPjf0t7eH_+_OPNiTVtnz8DiA at mail.gmail.com> <53EFE6A3.60703 at bindweed.com> Message-ID: <CAF1072wqFGPDihOLGJMExWY-thtmA9eyVsyKE2qFyKrs8BVWjw at mail.gmail.com> Okay, but Rue d'asticot, staff like and stork like legs on the girls on st croix and a heron like walk to Abos, the name port mimizon (sounds like mimicry) Which just happens to be organized after a hand with fingers and a thumb, the talk of a bite possibly switching eastwind and Sandwalker in a story by stuff swimming in their veins and Marsch also being bitten on the last possible friday/rogation day before Easter Sunday when the journal starts up again don't seem like coincidence to me. On Saturday, August 16, 2014, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: > > On 16/08/2014 21:08, Marc Aramini wrote: > >> I should stop, but I just can't. >> The story also tells us Victor falls to his death ... I actually believe >> what the story tells me there. >> You see how you have to admit that some scenes are fabrications or >> unreliable to proceed, and even you aren't immune from dismissing whole >> scenes that are clearly depicted in the text? >> You are likely to say that is the ONLY scene because it serves a >> narrative purpose. I believe that the tree reaching for Victor, the mites >> that infect people, the shadow children riding up from the mud in currents, >> the damaged legs of the young firl and the paralyzed legs of Aunt Jeanine, >> the climactic bite in A Story, and the symbolism of shadow children riding >> the shoulders of Marsh men all serve a narrative purpose too. >> > > But we have clues right from the start. The handwriting in the journal > changes (the last line written by the real Marsch was "I think I would > shoot them both"). The journal relates that Marsch was bitten by the cat. > The officer compares the writing with Victor's school composition book > right *before* this point. A few enties later, Victor admits he has been > lying about the dates, in the very same entry that he claims the boy is > dead. > > Item: The green eyes of the Marsch who visits No. 5. Marsch earlier > claims in his journal that Victor has "startling green eyes" (and he > doesn't say "greener than mine"). We see green eyes later as an abo > signifier in "A Story" - the point is veritably hammered in. > > Item: "I needed only to make my voice like his and look older." > > Item: When (in prison) he writes of his bad handwriting, he says "my > mother would take my trousers to the river, walking upstream for hours to > get away from the sewers, leeaving me ashamed and afraid, with an old > blanket or a torn piece of sail wrapped around me". Who can be writing > this other than the boy Victor? > > The thing is, these are all 'hard' clues that point towards a specific > interpretation. The clues you cite are heavily interpreted by you, and > some of the leaps you make seem to be of questionable foundation. Consider > "the damaged legs of the young girl". Phaedria had a broken ankle, which > was expected to heal in the normal way. She played a cripple in the play > the children put on, "[because her] ankle would not be mended in time four > our performance". Other girls - including Marydol - acted in the play, and > presumably did not play cripples. Subsequently, Phaedria was agile enough > to participate in a burglary. > > You have to assume that Wolfe's characters are completely delusional even > when conscious, and that the story is told, like that of Loyal To The Group > Of Seventeen, in terms of symbology with no causal attachment to the overt > meaning of the text. The problem is, we can easily generate a storm of > such symbolism from any text. > > I don't think such symbolism works if it contradicts the text. > > - Gerry Quinn > > > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20140816/a629344b/attachment.htm>
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