Urth Net

← back to the conversation

Conditional Concession to Lee

Jeffery Wilson clueland.com · 09 Sep 2014, 18:43 · from 2014-September.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: jwilson at clueland.com (Jeffery Wilson clueland.com)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 13:43:31 -0500
Subject: (urth) Conditional Concession to Lee
In-Reply-To: <540F25A3.2040607 at bindweed.com>
References: <BLU175-W218CCDDC3E7F000F34AAAECFC10 at phx.gbl>
	<540F25A3.2040607 at bindweed.com>
Message-ID: <540F4A53.1050505 at clueland.com>

On 9/9/2014 11:06 AM, Gerry Quinn wrote:
>
> On 08/09/2014 19:08, Lee wrote:
>
>> Wolfe is careful to put such Earthian references only in the hands of
>> certain key Urth individuals who are likely to be privy to them, e.g.
>> Jonah as mentioned, Father Inire/Rudesind, for the Apollo moon
>> painting, Dr. Talos for Frankenstein, etc. Please remind me if I have
>> overlooked any Earth reference from a non-spacefaring, general
>> populace sort from Urth (i.e. with a Saint name).
>
> Thecla's sister Thea is an exultant, so perhaps not of the common
> populace, but she is aware of the fact that 'present' meant 'now' and
> 'gift' in English.  I assume she learned it in history class.

I've long been one of the people pooh-poohing Lee's notion of Inire as a
multiple creature and shapeshifter like Tzadkiel, despite them being at
opposite extremes of the visible Yesodi ranks.

However, seeing the juxtaposition of classes and people here reminds me 
that Inire is the supplier of cloning and bestifying/anthopofying 
technology with his hands in the khaibits and the anpiels and 
mastiffmen. So he does have something of these abilities, only as lab 
technology rather than an inborn ability like the Hierogrammates.

So, perhaps Rudesind is rather a *clone* of Inire himself, explaining 
their similarity of simian build. This  goes for the other suspects like 
the autocthonous shaman and Isangoma. This also explains how a 
short-lived hierodule has served a thousand years. And we know for sure 
he has memory-transfer potions, gobble-gobble!


-- 
Jeff Wilson - < jwilson at clueland.com >
A&M Texarkana Computational Intelligence Lab
< http://www.tamut.edu/cil >

An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net