resurrecting a 2002 thread that posits an alternative lineage for Sev

Norwood, Frederick Hudson · 10 Oct 2014, 12:06 · from 2014-October.txt.gz

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From: NORWOODR at mail.etsu.edu (Norwood, Frederick Hudson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:06:51 +0000
Subject: (urth) resurrecting a 2002 thread that posits an alternative
 lineage for Sev
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I?m aware that many people believe this.  In fact, I believe it up to a point.  (Our free will is very limited, maybe limited only to the power to say No to temptation.)  What I said was there is nothing in the Bible to suggest that.  (Desert peoples tend to believe in Kismet, not free will.)

Rick Norwood

From: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] On Behalf Of Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
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Subject: Re: (urth) resurrecting a 2002 thread that posits an alternative lineage for Sev

Frederick, no. God did not "decide" who would be damned/saved; He *knew* who would be damned/saved. There is a key difference. He creates beings with free will, but because of omniscience and His position outside of Time, he knows in advance what they will do and how He will respond to those actions.

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