Theism Supports Free Will Better than Materialism Does
David Stockhoff · 12 Oct 2014, 16:17
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:17:55 -0400 Subject: (urth) Theism Supports Free Will Better than Materialism Does In-Reply-To: <1a255b7d185765a8438dab0d0030a550.squirrel at webmail.prismnet.com> References: <BLU175-W3843E85195195E1669C4AFCFA20 at phx.gbl> <5436921A.5070703 at bindweed.com> <0DA454A32913114C9CC19BB781FB907D012A88 at ETSUMB2.etsu.edu> <CAJ8=rtjJ2hachT03utxyKuM07-PZzdhcLBNwLy-vKaiyF5+_bQ at mail.gmail.com> <0DA454A32913114C9CC19BB781FB907D012BF0 at ETSUMB2.etsu.edu> <F8A09C07-E86F-4BBB-BE34-3F23F5724D6A at gmail.com> <0DA454A32913114C9CC19BB781FB907D012C5A at ETSUMB2.etsu.edu> <54389857.1070200 at clueland.com> <54396A58.7010206 at verizon.net> <1a255b7d185765a8438dab0d0030a550.squirrel at webmail.prismnet.com> Message-ID: <543AA9B3.3010804 at verizon.net> On 10/11/2014 8:51 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote: > On Sat, October 11, 2014 12:35, David Stockhoff wrote: >>> So in a physicalistic view, genuine free will doesn't seem to >>> make much sense. It's hard even to describe what it would consist in. >> Interesting, but crude. Human decisions are not always either >> deterministic or random. > What third options do you offer? Well, the whole range in between seems pretty huge. Especially in decisions that are not binary. > >>> What we want >>> miraculously but subtly changes the whole cosmos to enable us to be >>> more fully the characters we are. Free will is the gift of the Holy >>> Spirit." >>> >> Not only is this not an argument for free will---rather, it argues for >> supernatural puppetry and goes to bizarre lengths to do so---it >> completely ignores biology (see above). Unless we're to believe God >> automatically adjusts that too. > He adjusts everything; this is the sort of theism where nothing happens or > even exists without God willing it the way nothing changes or appears on a > TV screen without the raster drawing it. OK, but I don't recall the laws of chemistry changing. Then again, I suppose I wouldn't. Regardless of one's position on this, it's certainly relevant to Wolfe, especially the "instantaneous simulation" bit.
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