barrington interview

Marc Aramini · 15 Oct 2014, 14:43 · from 2014-October.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at gmail.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:43:25 -0700
Subject: (urth) barrington interview
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There's an irony here: my understanding of tail chasing is that it
describes one being lost in self-absorbed subjectivity - the claim that we
can only know the self, falling into the Cartesian trap, assertion of the
self and complete inability to extend to the external physical world, is
the quintessential act of tail chasing.  The entire debate is moot.
Scientific types assert that we have accomplished much in understanding the
mechanism of the world even if we cannot manipulate it at the subatomic
level with reliability, unscientific types assert, hey man ... what do we
really know?  As it turns out, ridiculous, incredible amounts that can be
reliably replicated even with variable  conditions. Ultimately ... whatever.

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Dave Lebling <dlebling at hyraxes.com> wrote:

> What then are those two points and why are the responses to it
> tail-chasing? Making such a claim without explicating it is less than
> helpful.
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Your discussions remain meaningless, and, quite frankly, boring, while
>> you don't clarify what point of view you are defending. Lee is making two
>> separate points (which have some points of contact) while most of the  rest
>> of you are chasing your tails. Please, first think what your point is, then
>> check in what way it is even relevant to the discussion, and only then
>> proceed to explain it.
>>
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