Wolfe as conversionist
Daniel Otto Jack Petersen · 04 Nov 2014, 13:28
· from 2014-November.txt.gz
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com (Daniel Otto Jack Petersen) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:28:06 +0000 Subject: (urth) Wolfe as conversionist In-Reply-To: <F6F1BE4A-3240-4D5F-8586-419C3B43AB2C at gmail.com> References: <CADAcD-Nyp3T9Vys0faMX8dSTTV6_6wrLL6YPXY6k83ooEPbGAw at mail.gmail.com> <CAJ8=rtg84SULE6XgGZGjnTQpy05+9tgmxHrOBy28os4uNXFQ2A at mail.gmail.com> <F6F1BE4A-3240-4D5F-8586-419C3B43AB2C at gmail.com> Message-ID: <CAGB0RZ4WjWbYS2+NyWK_co1M0V9LZRFtuuKUw1JKdZNxkDKYZQ at mail.gmail.com> Well put, Antonio. Some take Wolfe's open-ended and polyvalent narrations as evidence of either a lack of commitment to any certain set of beliefs on his own part, or lack of a desire for his readers to commit to a particular set of beliefs - or both. But I think the ployvalence is there because it is one of the best ways to open people up to whole new conceptions. It's not there to make them think all conceptions are equal (which really means equally false). I still think a sympathetic reader can see that Wolfe is rooting for the reader to embrace a certain central set of beliefs (just as some of his characters do - or try to do as best they can). I would say that whether I myself were a 'believer' or not. It's just the most astute way to read him. -DOJP On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com> wrote: > No dia 03/11/2014, ?s 17:21, "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <danldo at gmail.com> > escreveu: > > > Wolfe definitely played a (small) part in my conversion from generic > Christian to Catholicism. > > I think for many Wolfe - like so many others and other things, but let's > say Wolfe since we're talking about Wolfe - may first play the role of > intellectual disruptor: he _can_ make people understand that things are not > so simple as they had thought. > > But many are not stuck at that point. In this list, for instance, Lee has > had the opportunity to articulate masterfully some of the things that > religious folks usually think only they understand, and yet Lee is not a > believer. Because to be a believer one actually has to believe in God, and > that doesn't even mean believing in the Bible; it means feeling the > presence of God, even if only at times, and then accepting religious belief > as an explanation for that feeling. Now, some don't feel God because > they've shut their senses, or fight against them, or never developed them > in the first place, but none of those states has to be permanent. Art like > Wolfe's may contribute to free one from the need to fight God, but it can't > do everything. And certainly for some that would be considered a step > backwards. > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net -- Daniel Otto Jack Petersen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20141104/15afc19f/attachment.htm>
An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net