Latro

Marc Aramini · 27 Apr 2015, 17:33 · from 2015-April.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at gmail.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:33:14 -0700
Subject: (urth) Latro
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It was still supposed to be a tight fit even if it was a gate ... the point
is you can't get through if you are encumbered with stuff ... maybe that
preacher needs some reading comprehension lessons ... not sure which
denomination you were, but possibly the most infuriating thing to me about
some fundamentalists is they have very poor basic reading skills ... even
if one buys into  inerrancy (which I certainly don't) it  doesnt mean you
cant misread ...

Ask a fundamentalist if the good samaritan was a real person who actually
lived.
On Apr 27, 2015 10:13 AM, "Norwood, Frederick Hudson" <
NORWOODR at mail.etsu.edu> wrote:

> I no longer go to church, but when I did the sermons were mostly about the
> importance for Christians to always vote for the Republican party.  I
> remember one sermon about the camel passing through the eye of a needle.
> The preacher explained that "the eye of a needle" was the name of the gate
> that the rich used to enter Jerusalem and so the point of the parable is
> that naturally the rich would use that gate to enter heaven.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] On Behalf Of Lee
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:08 PM
> To: urth at urth.net
> Subject: (urth) Latro
>
> >Dan'l Danehy-Oakes: Lee,  Jesus' concern/love for the poor/common man was
> actually a
>
> >continuation/ confirmation of what several of the Prophets in the Old
> Testament had said
>
> >on the subject.
>
>
> Sure, of course. Makes sense.
>
>
> >It would not be at all accurate to say that Second Temple Judaism was
> centered on "reverence for
>
> >wealth, power, and inherited social status." Indeed, the Law made a
> number of exceptions, especially
>
> >in the matter of required sacrifices, for the poor.
>
>
> Not to be argumentative, but as you note, these were "exceptions" for the
> poor. Meaning the general
>
> rule was that sacrificing a portion of your wealth WAS an essential part
> of being a good jew, at the time.
>
> And who got that portion of your wealth? The ruling class of the
> priesthood.
>
>
> Concomitantly, if the admiration of personal wealth and power and status
> wasn't an important part of
>
> Judaic religion at the time, why would Jesus spend so much time preaching
> against it, especially the role
>
> of the priestly castes?
>
>
> Aren't such things a part of human nature? Don't we still hear sermons
> against worshipping money and
>
> power?  I can't imagine that Judean Hebrews were so different about that
> than everyone else, including
>
> we of modern society.
>
>
> I suspect we are not really in disagreement on this issue. Perhaps it is
> only a matter of how things are
>
> worded.
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