Lictor
David Stockhoff · 17 Feb 2018, 15:28
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 15:28:58 -0000 Subject: (urth) Lictor In-Reply-To: <07507bff-069b-30d8-5887-4f927209f2ff at casema.nl> References: <07507bff-069b-30d8-5887-4f927209f2ff at casema.nl> Message-ID: <077d2f22-3505-881a-591c-b03bd7974678 at verizon.net> I don't see "lictor" mentioned in the wiki---do you have a specific link to that? Nevertheless, the Mithraic cult has always been suggestive of similarities to both early Xtianity, which is useful to Wolfe, and to Severian's "secret history." It's closely allied with a branch of Roman government and with Rome. A sword figures prominently in its symbology. Severian becomes an outcast when he gives Thecla a blade, and he becomes Autarch when he kills the Autarch with a blade. He is often blood-covered, as with the sacrificial blood of a bull (sun symbol), but never blood-stained. Cultists proceeded through grades like Masons to become Leos, and lions have always been linked with the sun. The Mithraic leo has been taken as Aion, who is the Greek god of eternity or "unbounded time." Severian's going to Yesod and returning as the New Sun literally enacts this elevation to Leo. I had not realized that "mitra" could be read as "covenant." That's suggestive too. It's always been a mystery to me that Severian's sword (The Sword of the Lictor) belongs to a lictor that is never mentioned in the text, but if the lictor is a servant of a secret god with whom a covenant is held, then ... it fits. Hidden in plain sight, as usual. Thanks! On 2/17/2018 9:10 AM, Ab de Vos wrote: > > By chance I had to look up the Greek word for servant (????????). The > "servant of the eleven" in Athens was the executioner or his servant. > Servant is also the greek translation of Lictor. The lictor is an > official of the roman state but the term is also used for servitor in > the cult cult of Mithras. > > Mithras-Helios, with solar rays and in Iranian dress,^[104] > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism#cite_note-iranica-105> with > Antiochus I of Commagene <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commagene>. > (Mt.?Nemrut <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Nemrut>, 1st?Century?BCE) > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism > > > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20180217/81e01cba/attachment-0001.html>
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