Typhon's concessions

Marc Aramini · 04 Sep 2018, 23:36 · from 2018-September.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at gmail.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 16:36:50 -0700
Subject: (urth) Typhon's concessions
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Well, as ?fully human? I think it implies that Christ is also capable of
making human mistakes - Adam had, at least according to the most orthodox
position, everything he needed to stand firm with his prelapsarian gifts
but fell regardless. One of the biggest themes of Urth of the New Sun as
far as I can tell is that evil will ultimately serve a purpose (Severian
passes the trial because his enemies fight for him - he treated them
justly.) the fall of man, too, allows greater glory in the standing firm of
Christ against temptation and in salvation. I don?t know how much we want
to insist that this scene has the same theological implications as Christ?s
human triumph over temptation but it certainly suggests that severian faces
a similar obstacle in denying the needs of the flesh and personal
aggrandizement - Typhon and the adversary both, in the long term, still
serve th greater good in traditional theodicy.

On Tuesday, September 4, 2018, <incanto at mtecom.net> wrote:

> *the theme relies upon an examination of choice even in the face of
> unbearable thirst and need, to deny the desires of the flesh and maintain
> control*
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> Was Christ trying to maintain control? Or was he so firmly resident in the
> Divine Presence that personal advantage had no traction? And if that is so,
> is that also Severian's status? It hardly makes your allegorical
> interpretation less germain. Everyone accepts that Wolfe has written Christ
> saturated novels.
>
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