Typhon's concessions

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 05 Sep 2018, 16:09 · from 2018-September.txt.gz

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From: danldo at gmail.com (Dan'l Danehy-Oakes)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 09:09:52 -0700
Subject: (urth) Typhon's concessions
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...except, again, that we have auctorial statement that Jesus *is* absent
from the Solar universe.

That doesn't actually bother me a great deal, as I am inclined to "the text
is the text and the author has no privileged position in its
interpretation." But only inclined...

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes

When faced with two alternatives, I always like to choose the fourth.


On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:36 AM Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have several textual reasons to really not like part of the interview
> with Jordan where Wolfe  goes all in on this previous cycle explanation.
> One is the universe has Lewis Carroll (direct quotes!), Theseus, the
> monitor and the Virginia, rudyard kipling, Marcus Aurelius, Christian
> missionaries, a Catholic Church with Christ voided syncretized with
> paganism, and most of all the key statement by isangoma that Agia and
> Severian are the results of the choices we make now, the ghosts of the
> future in a free universe. Also, in eschatology and genesis nod is told
> when he looks for the children of Adam and Eve that he is 50,000 years or
> so too late. Textually the emphasis on New Sun as our future is very
> present in Shadow and I feel that it is Just as present in Long and Short
> Sun with the statements about Allah and the unrecognizable figure of the
> goddess of purity on green (Mary, for those Catholics out there).
>
> Against that ... well, a flood. Time travel backwards exists in this
> world. If the cycles are this similar why have more than one? I really
> don?t think Jesus is absent at all in the solar cycle.
>
> On Wednesday, September 5, 2018, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Actually I think of the Solar Cycle as a *previous* cycle of the
>> Universe. This explains the "archaeological" approch in the BotNS
>> afterwords, and I believe that Wolfe would say that in a Universe _after_
>> ours, no Fall would take place because Jesus.
>>
>> This also explains things like Baldanders/Frankenstein: Mary Shelley
>> didn't premember Baldanders, it was a haunting from the previous Universe
>> cycal.
>> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
>>
>> When faced with two alternatives, I always like to choose the fourth.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:14 PM <incanto at mtecom.net> wrote:
>>
>>> *I don?t know how much we want to insist that this scene has the same
>>> theological implications as Christ?s human triumph over temptation*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agree. I think GW used his Catholicism as a template but created the
>>> Solar Cycle universe a "quarter turn" (who knows the exact geometry?)
>>> further and into a fresh creation. Thanks for this dialog.
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