Interlibrary Loan

PAUL RYDEEN · 30 Apr 2019, 11:18 · from 2019-April.txt.gz
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From: rydeen at bellsouth.net (PAUL RYDEEN)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 06:18:12 -0500
Subject: (urth) Interlibrary Loan
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Does anyone here have a Twitter account? That might be a better way to express our concern. It would have more visibility than a letter and we should get a response (a response would not be guaranteed with a letter). 



> On Apr 29, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Dr. Bloodmoney <spaulmcdonald at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I think that a polite letter to Tor wouldn't hurt anyone. As long as there is a chance of accidental editorial errors occurring we can at there very least try, in our small way, to prevent it.
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 2:02 PM Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes every edition but the Ace uses the Scribner flawed printing. 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 1:58 PM PAUL RYDEEN <rydeen at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> The Gollancz SF Masterworks ebook has "fifteen" (spelled out).  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 28, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> See page 161- ?it must have weighed a good fifteen pounds? - I have had translators contact me and had to explain it should be fifteen hundred pounds. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sunday, April 28, 2019, Ab de Vos <foxyab at casema.nl> wrote:
>>>>> I have the Charles Scribner's Sons edition of Fifth Head (New York, 1972). Is that one corrupted as well?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Op 28-4-2019 om 01:16 schreef Marc Aramini:
>>>>>> Copy editors managed to mess up the horn reveal in reprints of Long Sun and I insist the ace version of Fifth Head is the least corrupt. Wolfe was very mad about the switching of horn for I about two thirds of the way through exodus in reprints. He wanted the reveal at that dinner scene. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 27, 2019, PAUL RYDEEN <rydeen at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> I've never been sure how much leeway an editor really has. Would they really cut whole scenes they didn't like?  Do they redo things wholesale or just fix things and make recommendations?   Since Wolfe picked this editor, can we rely on his pick?  Even if Wolfe were alive, how much of the editor's influence would make it to publication?  And if the answer is the editor has a lot of sway, how many of his edits would the author notice on review?
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2019, at 9:55 PM, Bailey Swartz <bsswartz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I like to have faith that Wolfe (who so carefully constructed each work) anticipated the possibility of posthumourous publication and made appropriate plans for that eventuality.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 7:51 PM Eric Bourland <eb at hwaet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I am wondering what result we would get if, individually and noisily, we reached out to Tor editors and implored them to do basic proofreading on the new novel, but make no changes in its substance, and publish it as Mr. Wolfe wrote it. I am willing to act on this.
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>>>>>>>>> Eric
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>>>>>>>>> *******
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Eric Bourland
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> eb at hwaet.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.hwaet.com/
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>>>>>>>>>  
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>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From: Urth <urth-bounces at lists.urth.net> On Behalf Of Marc Aramini
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 8:25 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: (urth) Interlibrary Loan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> One hopes. Yes that?s how I feel about those who would edit Wolfe.he can create meaning in so many ways that every reader will certainly miss, especially in his post 2000 work.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (I?m glad cell phones made top posting the de facto response - I remember the days of the list when it was a sin.) I have always preferred it. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 26, 2019, Evan Pickett <picketter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm reminded of a scene from The Insider, although Mr. Wolfe would probably not ever take this tone:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/724e8b4b-0515-48cf-b7f2-e49501158ca4
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>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Surely any editor would know by now that Gene Wolfe chose his words with care?
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>>>>>>>>>  
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>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Evan
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>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:48 PM Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> 
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