Little, Big stuff
Alex David Groce · 30 Apr 2000, 15:00
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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce at gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: (urth) Little, Big stuff Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:00:09 Message-ID: <urth-v0028-0942 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0028/0942.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm... I think I know what I'm reading as soon as I finish the Lafferty fest that I'm indulging in at the moment. Thanks to all for the various useful insights on LB. Michael: Yes, LB as a whole is much less compelling than the individual parts taken by themselves, which are (with only a few exceptions, such as the Eigenblick thing) beautiful indeed. Maybe this fits the "inside is bigger than outside" theme... Alga: Yes, Crowley is much less of a genre writer than Wolfe, but I really wasn't thinking of it in genre terms, but as a kind of thematic connection to Dunsany (who obviously wasn't drawing on "genre" sources, since as such they didn't exist for him anymore than for Carroll or Kingsley). This, handled as anything other than the rather crass Niven "iron drove out the magic" or the simple story of someone from "reality" whisked off to fantasy to be a hero, hasn't really been used much in conventional genre work, has it? Usually fairy and reality are nicely compartmentalized, with fantasy, while more "fun," usually given a fairly explicit short end of the ontologi= cal stick. Crowley is certainly more in keeping with the 19th c. sources he's using than anything I'm aware of in-genre. Mantis: Perhaps Crowley cruelty really does explain the ending--after all,=20 Engine Summer strikes me as the same thing, amazing beauty that in the end=20 sums up to an extremely cruel vision of a personality trapped in amber. Wolfe at his most savage is considerably kinder to his poor fictional creations, although perhaps this just shows a lack of nerve on his part, while Crowley has what it takes to let the Revolutionary do it's work and not pass the knife under the door. "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/
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