C.S. Lewis
Daniel Fusch · 27 May 2000, 07:49
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From: "Daniel Fusch" <dfusch at hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (urth) C.S. Lewis Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:49:08 PDT Message-ID: <urth-v0029-0042 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0029/0042.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From: akt at attglobal.net > >I would appreciate more on this. I've read these books (not for years, >true) without conciously picking up these points. And does Wolfe really >echo them? Typhon, who lives for centuries, is bad. But the Green Man, >Sev himself, everyone on the starship are not immortal, but are >long-lived. Tzad is probably immortal (but also supernatural). > >-alga I'm interested in this, too. I have only a vague recollection of "Out of th= e=20 Silent Planet," but didn't that novel end with the antagonists being sent=20 back to earth so that they would not pollute the peaceful inhabitants of an=20 Edenic paradise with vain and self-destructive philosophies? Incidentally, I remember the same thread appearing in L'Engle's work--A=20 Wrinkle in Time--with the difference that the silent planet was there a=20 shadowed planet. The similarity was that travelers from earth were viewed=20 with suspicion (at first) on the planet neighboring Camazotz, once the=20 inhabitants learned of their origin. But, not to meander--wouldn't the Green Man be an example of redeemed=20 humanity, or the Urth equivalent thereof? In the Green Man's time, Urth has=20 already been transformed into Ushas, there is a new sun, and the world is=20 filled with verdure and life. As for the state of affairs on Urth, it seems to me that the Autarchs have=20 closed the roads, abandoned spaceflight, etc., not to prevent humanity from=20 spreading like a plague and infecting the rest of the universe, but rather=20 to lock society into an earthbound holding pattern, so that the Autuarchs=20 can maintain a status quo until the coming of the New Sun. The alternative,=20 from the Autarchs' point of view, would be endless warring, the ceaseless=20 rise and collapse of empires, turmoil without end; they have tried every=20 system of government available throughout the millenia, but none of these=20 have worked. Vodalus' dreams of progress and glory are illusory; from this=20 view, conquest of the stars would simply increase the scope of the turmoil=20 that is human history. Therefore, it is necessary to lock everything in place until the New Sun=20 comes to make all things new both spiritually and physically. =46rom the old Autarch's death scene in Citadel: "I stand...you will stand...for so much that is wrong.... Because all else=20 is worse. Until the New Sun comes, we have but a choice of evils. All have=20 been tried, and all have failed. Goods in common, the rule of the=20 people...everything. You wish for progress? The Ascians have it. They are=20 deafened by it, crazed by the death of Nature until they are ready to accep= t=20 Erebus and the rest as gods. We hold humankind stationary...in barbarism.=20 The Autarch protects the people from the exultants, and the=20 exultants...shelter them from the Autarch. The religious comfort them. We=20 have closed the roads to paralyze the social order.... Until the New=20 Sun...." This paralysis allows the Autarchs to keep the society in stasis--and thus=20 in peace and order--as they wait for the New Sun. The Autarchs would be=20 fatalists, if it were not for their certainty of the coming of the New Sun=20 and the rebirth/renewal of Urth. Meanwhile--I think--some of the Hierodules drop by periodically to help=20 guide humanity and prepare everything for the New Sun. I think. I've never=20 been entirely clear on the role of the Hierodules in their ministering to=20 humanity. But then, I don't know whether Severian was entirely clear on tha= t=20 point, either. The short version of all this is that immortality and the colonization of=20 space are sinful only in the sense that they are self-destructive. By=20 spreading across the universe, homo sapiens does not harm others so much as=20 harm itself, by increasing the political, economical, and social chaos of=20 the species. I'm not certain whether Wolfe addresses the issue of=20 immortality, but I suspect that if he did his ruling would be that=20 immortality is not sinful in of itself, but is inherently perilous and=20 detrimental because it extends one's sinful or chaotic condition. Death--as=20 long as the world and humanity as a whole is in a decaying state--is not=20 necessarily a bad thing; an eternity of decay would be worse. However, I=20 have no textual support at hand for this, so this remains mere speculation. What do you think? Daniel ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/
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