Wolfe a conservative writer? (was Re: (urth) Grounded in the text?)
Alex David Groce · 08 Dec 2000, 13:22
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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce at gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: Wolfe a conservative writer? (was Re: (urth) Grounded in the text?) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 13:22:19 Message-ID: <urth-v0030-0172 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0030/0172.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adam wrote: > And for this very reason, that prototypical postmodernist John Barth > has also adopted the _Thousand Nights and a Night_ as a model. Not > to mention the postmodernist tour de force THE ARABIAN NIGHTMARE by > Robert Irwin (whose book on _The Thousand Nights and a Night_, > entitled something like THE ARABIAN NIGHTS: A COMPANION, I highly > recommend). Hmmm... This seems to bring us back to the whole question of how to know postmodernism (and without the aid of a SF oracle like Damon Knight's finger). Barth I will agree is postmodernist. But notice that Wolfe, while he write about stories being told, telling themselves, etc., never (AFAIK) does the kind of metafictional introduction of himself that Barth does (in _Chimera_, for example). Wolfe's stories and novels are often, like Nabokov's, "the documents in the case," with internal discussion of how they came to be written. But Nabokov is more often, in my experience, considered a modernist than a postmodernist. Use of the 1001 Nights does not a postmodernist make--Proust and R. A. Lafferty are both frequent travelers to that territory, and Proust is a modernist and Lafferty is whatever on earth Lafferty is. I'll agree that THE ARABIAN NIGHTMARE and PEACE have a _lot_ in common (though aiming at rather opposite visions, I think). What makes THE ARABIAN NIGHTMARE postmodernist rather than modernist? -- "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/
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