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The Best Introduction To The Mountains

Andy Robertson · 03 Jan 2002, 19:06 · from urth-v0031.mbox · original

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From: "Andy Robertson" <andywrobertson at clara.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (urth) Re: The Best Introduction To The Mountains
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:06:16 -0000
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Bitterman" <tom at bitterman.net>
> >
> Which is obvious?:
> a) the government is more dangerous than any tyrant?
> b) that this is what Wolfe thinks?


b) of course.

I guess we should attempt to sheer off from direct political arguments,  but
it seems legit to discuss Wolfe's politics in connection with his writing.

I agree that he is good at showing what he thinks is *wrong*, but of course
it is much harder to try to show and defend what is *right*.

I would suggest that the Whorl books contain a lot of experimental writing
about the forms of politics.

If none of the city-states described there are utopian, I can only suggest
that that is because Wolfe does not think Utopia acheivable in this life.


    Andy R












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