lost in the big woods

Jeff Wilson · 05 Feb 2002, 05:30 · from urth-v0202.mbox · original

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From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) lost in the big woods
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 23:30:28 -0600
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>      From:=20
>           "Joe Eull" <lo_phan17 at hotmail.com>

> Regarding sex in the sun books:
>=20
> I think that Severian's description of his relationships with women has d=
one
> a lot to cement Wolfe's reputation as sexist. The scene you're talking ab=
out
> is a particularly affecting one. Without re-reading, Severian seems to ha=
te
> Jolenta for her relationship with Dorcas, and more importantly for the lu=
st
> she engenders in him is a reflection of her desire to be desired. He says
> she made a tribadist of Dorcas, and nearly an algophilist of himself.
> (lesbian, ghoul-lover respectively). My girlfriend at the time stopped
> reading the book at this point and handed it back to me saying it was
> disgusting. I don't blame her, Severian is talking about killing her and
> raping her dead body for spite.

	"algophilist" is more what we call masochism. It sounds more like
Jolenta toyed with Severian, to see how much misery he would endure for
a chance to sleep with her than anything remotely like necrophilia.

--=20
Jeff Wilson
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