Urth Net

← back to the conversation

lost in the big woods

Michael Straight · 05 Feb 2002, 15:53 · from urth-v0202.mbox · original

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: Michael Straight <straight at email.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: (urth) lost in the big woods
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:53:45 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <urth-v0202-82 at digest.urth.net>
X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0202/82.txt.shtml
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Joe Eull wrote:

> The subject of sex in Wolfe deserves extended treatment. Although I don't
> consider his writings sexist, I've had some uncomfortable thoughts about =
his
> work. Still, this scene is important. Urth, at the time of the red sun, i=
s a
> barbaric place and Severian is a product of the society. I think if the
> writer had held back on his depictions it would have been dishonest.

It seems possible to me that Wolfe's treatment of sex may be related to
Christian doctines about sexuality.  The main orthodox understanding of
sex seems to be that though sex is a good thing, in fallen human beings,
sexuality gets warped in all kinds of bad ways.  A lot of SF writing (e.g.
Heinlein) seems to think almost any kind of sexual desire or activity is
healthy and good.  Or at least that many kinds of sex that are well
outside the mainstream for our society is (would be) healthy and good.

So it may be that Wolfe continually probes at the ickiest kinds of
sexuality in reaction to that, to get readers to realize that they don't
really think that any sort of sexual desire is good and healthy (which is
obvious once you state it that baldly, but you do still run into people
who seem to think the only thing wrong with sexuality is repressing or
denying ones desires).

-Rostrum


--=20




An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net