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Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 07 Feb 2002, 16:27
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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy at siebel.com> Subject: (urth) RE: Digest from urth at urth.net Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:27:47 -0800 Message-ID: <urth-v0202-104 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0202/104.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hyacinth, or whatever s/he represents, blooms as a=20 > flower. Perhaps these recombinations offer some hope for destitute humanity,=20 > crushed under the tyranny of wicked men. It seems to me that the passage=20 > aptly states that a definite hope for a return from doom lies in the=20 > transformation to ever-blooming flora. =20 Ahem. Not to be always harping on the obvious... but... Wolfe, as a committed Christian, certainly believes that the only real=20 hope for the human race lies in a hybrid (of God and Man) and in a very=20 real transformation of humanity - both the individual human person and the whole human race. The Catholic Church would, I believe, add that=20 this transformation (into an eternal and "glorified" form - thus "ever- blooming" indeed) can come about only through the 'ingestion' of the=20 body of the hybrid, which changes us to be "more conformed" to the=20 "image" of the hybrid. And, as with Hyacinth, the true salvation or transformation comes (can come) only after the death of this physical=20 self. Flowers in general, and roses in particular, are also a common figure for Christ (the word "ever-blooming" reminds me in particular of the=20 old Christmas song "Lo! How a rose ever-blooming": Lo, how a rose e'er blooming =46rom tender stem hath sprung! Of Jesse's lineage coming As men of old have sung It came, a floweret bright Amid the cold of winter When half spent was the night=20 Isaiah 'twas foretold it The rose I have in mind With Mary we behold it The Virgin Mother kind To show God's love aright She bore to men a Saviour When half spent was the night=20 O Saviour, Child of Mary Who felt our human woe O Saviour, King of glory Who dost our weakness know Bring us at length, we pray To the bright courts of heaven And to the endless day=20 ) Happy Thursday. --=20
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