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From: maa32 <maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu>
Subject: (urth) stuff
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:59:39 -0700
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Well, since it was recently mentioned that some Catholics miss the old Lati=
n=20
mass, I thought I would add that Wolfe is one of those.  I have discussed h=
is=20
faith with him a little bit (since we are both Catholic), and he says that=20
taking away the Latin mass deprived the church of much of its universal=20
community.

I believe Michael stated:
>However, the imp in me
        is reminded of similar things done comically--was it in ZORBA THE=20
GREEK
        that the woman determined that the way to world peace was for all t=
he=20
wives
        of the military men to refuse to have sex with their husbands if th=
ey
  >      engaged in war?

I haven't read Zorba the Greek, but I believe Euripede's Lysistrata is abou=
t=20
exactly that.  The women get together and refuse to have sex with the men=20
until they stop fighting.  Perhaps Kazantzakis borrowed from Euripedes.  (T=
hey=20
are both dealing with Greece).

Also, race is kind of interesting in Wolfe.  There is the slave in the Latr=
o=20
books, but there is also a large Chinese presence in There are Doors and=20
Peace. (Mr. Borski and I have discussed the import of all the Chinese=20
artifacts a little bit from opposite sides; I would say they are positive=20
images.  The Chinese man in There are Doors is pretty stereotyped, but he i=
s=20
also a "true brother" to Mr. "Green".  I don't know.  If we accept that Het=
hor=20
is Korean (Kim Lee Song) then that doesn't bode too well for Asian races in=20
his text.
I guess that's about it...
Marc Aramini

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