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Re. (urth) Black Sun, White Fountain
Kieran Cleary · 02 Feb 1998, 17:00
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From: "Kieran Cleary" <kierannwn at tinet.ie> Subject: Re. (urth) Black Sun, White Fountain Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:00:32 Message-ID: <urth-v0006-0502 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0006/0502.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01BD2FFC.12972000" [Posted from URTH, a mailing list about Gene Wolfe's New Sun and other works] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BD2FFC.12972000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [MAJOR apologies for labouring the point, such as it is, but I just want = to get my terminology right below:] -viz wonders: >On the illness of the sun: It is stated in several places that the sun >is being devoured by a black hole. That much is impossible to argue >with. The debatable point is whether it's natural causes or murder. How about this then: Item: The Conciliator is sometimes referred to as "Dark Sun" (or "Black = Sun" can't remember which.) Item: The New Sun itself is brought by the White Fountain, which is = described in the text as being the opposite of a black hole, i.e. an = erruption of matter from one (lower) universe to another (higher) universe. Item: There is a black hole in the Old Sun Item: The White Fountain that brought the New Sun into being was not = born in the same universe as Urth. (shaky here, but I thought that was = mentioned in tUotNS) So, speculation follows: the black hole that is destroying the Old Sun = is merely the necessary complement to the White Fountain. One has caused = the other, and are both different sides of the same coin that is = Severian. lasrach (phew. no more, I promise)=20 North West Labs Finisklin Industrial Estate Sligo Republic of Ireland Tel. +353 71 69441 Fax. +353 71 69451 email: kierannwn at tinet.ie ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BD2FFC.12972000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>[MAJOR apologies for labouring the = point, such=20 as it is, but I just want to get my terminology right = below:]</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-viz wonders:<BR><BR>>On the illness of the sun: It is = stated in=20 several places that the sun<BR>>is being devoured by a black = hole. That=20 much is impossible to argue<BR>>with. The debatable point is = whether=20 it's natural causes or murder.<BR><BR>How about this then:<BR><BR>Item: = The=20 Conciliator is sometimes referred to as "Dark Sun" (or = "Black=20 Sun"<BR>can't remember which.)<BR>Item: The New Sun itself is = brought by=20 the White Fountain, which is described in the text as being the opposite = of a=20 black hole, i.e. an erruption of matter from one<BR>(lower) universe to = another=20 (higher) universe.<BR>Item: There is a black hole in the Old = Sun<BR>Item: The=20 White Fountain that brought the New Sun into being was not born in the = same=20 universe as Urth. (shaky here, but I thought that was mentioned in=20 tUotNS)<BR><BR>So, speculation follows: the black hole that is = destroying the=20 Old Sun is<BR>merely the necessary complement to the White Fountain. One = has=20 caused the other, and are both different sides of the same coin that is=20 Severian.<BR><BR>lasrach</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(phew. no more, I promise) </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>North West Labs<BR>Finisklin = Industrial=20 Estate<BR>Sligo<BR>Republic of Ireland</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Tel. +353 71 69441<BR>Fax. +353 71=20 69451<BR>email: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:kierannwn at tinet.i">kierannwn at tinet.i</A>e</FONT></DIV></BO= DY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BD2FFC.12972000--
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