For Jerry- a response
Jerry Friedman · 28 Feb 2002, 16:42
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From: Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (urth) For Jerry- a response Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:42:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <urth-v0202-248 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0202/248.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- Andy Robertson <andywrobertson at clara.co.uk> wrote: >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Wilson" <jwilson at io.com> > > If the Whorl traveled through a region of space that curved back > > itself, then it's reasonable that the old Sun would be visible back > > along the way they came. >=20 >=20 > This does not feel right. >=20 > You are correct that this sort of thing is often glossed over, but the > Whorl > is a STL generation starship and is not at the "magical" level of > technology > that, for example, the Ship in UOTNS is. I suspect Jeff is thinking of a space warp that was already there, either naturally or created by someone like the Hierodules, which the _Whorl_ passed through without anyone's knowledge (at least in the Cargo). This strikes me as a lot to conclude on very slim evidence, since the physics is very hard to swallow and I don't remember anything like it anywhere else in the books.=20 > > It's been previously discussed that Lune hasn't sufficient > > gravity to retain an atmosphere; given that gravity manipulation > > is featured discretely in Severian's time, it's possible that > > Lune's gravity was increased during the age of wonders > > to keep the air held down. With light-bending space warps and gravity control, you could make a case for anything you want: that Green is the other side of Blue, that the Bluvian fauna's doubled members (stop me now!) are an effect of double refraction by space warps in the atmosphere, that the whole thing was really written by Charles Kinbote. ... Jerry Friedman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com --=20
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