Smart Robots

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 22 Apr 2002, 17:07 · from urth-v0204.mbox · original

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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy at siebel.com>
Subject: RE: (urth) Smart Robots
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:07:24 -0700
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Hartshorn said it pretty darn well:

> > >First of all, redeemed from what, exactly? Original Sin?

> To be redeemed AND BECOME CHILDREN OF GOD. [...]0
>
> You may argue that robots can't do this, but in the Lupiverse
> they can.

While I think it may be a stretch to simply say "they can," I
think we can safely say "it appears that they can." I would
suggest that in the Lupiverse (as quite possibly in the=20
universe which we are please to call "real"), if humans make=20
something capable of ensoulment, God will provide the soul --
which does not necessarily mean that it is a "good" thing to=20
make such an object, other than by the means which have been
provided us (i.e., reproduction); but a robot or a clone would
not, I think, be punished for the sins of its makers.

> And this undercuts Nutrias probable smooth arguments about
> Robot as symbolic of different sorts of people.

Why? Because one thing is true does not mean that another thing
is not; certainly, these two things don't contradict. Or, if you
think they do, please show how. Make sure that it accounts for
Olivine.

--Dan'l

--=20

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