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Peace: Who killed Mr. Tilly?

StoneOx17 · 22 May 2002, 09:42 · from urth-v0205.mbox · original

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From: StoneOx17 at aol.com
Subject: (urth) Peace: Who killed Mr. Tilly?
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 05:42:50 EDT
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Hello,

Did Mrs. Tilly's ghost really poison Mr. TIlly? I haven't seen this questio=
n=20
discussed in the mailing list, so I'm assuming that most people think the=20
ghost did it.  I think it must be somebody else.  I'm not quite sure who, s=
o=20
I'm going to list all the suspects I can come up with, and give my thoughts=
. =20
Maybe someone can find more clues and unambiguously identify the real=20
culprit. =20

Why do I suspect it wasn't the ghost?  What made me suspicious in the first=20
place is that in two places, Wolfe has people suspect that it wasn't.
Julius Smart says to Mr. Tilly "Then I told him that when he'd said the gho=
st=20
was putting that stuff in his food I hadn't believed him; I'd heard of them=20
playing the piano and unlocking doors and all that--even pulling the covers=20
off beds--but never of putting something in someone's food before."
Later, Blaine says to Weer, who's seeing him about Gold's book, "Anyway, I=20
never believed in the ghost.  I think that woman was alive ..." and proceed=
s=20
to give an explanation of how somebody trying to peek out unobserved could=20
make a window curtain move and have it look like a ghost.

Of course, Blaine is wrong about half the things he says.  But I think Wolf=
e=20
is giving us hints here, and that Julius is right about ghosts not being ab=
le=20
to poison people.  The one ghost we know best from this book, Weer, certain=
ly=20
couldn't.  So here's my list of suspects. =20

1. Mrs. Tilly's ghost.
Pro: this is the most straightforward interpretation.  She has a good motiv=
e:=20
revenge.
Con: Mrs. Tilly's ghost would have to be a lot more together than Weer's=20
ghost for this.  And it seems unlikely that a ghost could poison people if=20
it's correct that ghosts are souls in Purgatory waiting for admission to=20
Heaven when (or if) they accept Jesus and repent of their sins.  Since I li=
ke=20
this interpretation, I don't want to believe that it was Mrs. Tilly's ghost=
,=20
even if she was haunting the house.

2. Mrs. Tilly, still alive.
Pro: this is what Blaine believes.  If Mr. Tilly killed their son by=20
experimenting on him, she has a motive.
Con: Blaine is wrong half the time.  Furthermore, either Mrs. Tilly would=20
have to somehow have survived her immersion in a methanol-filled coffin, or=20
(as Blaine has it) there's a methanol-filled coffin lying around for no=20
apparent reason which she accidentally tumbles into after Mr. Tilly dies.  =
I=20
don't think there's any chance that this is correct.

3. Mr. Tilly himself, in a Jekyll-and-Hyde act.
Pro: this is indeed a Wolfean thing to happen.
Con: I don't see any clues that this is happening.  Of course, Wolfe's clue=
s=20
are notoriously hard to find.

4. One of Mr. Tilly's clients, or somebody else, from a carnival.
Pro: He (she) could have had access to the drug that killed Mr. Tilly, by=20
stealing it from Mr. Litho or another client.  He (she) could easily have a=20
motive. =20
Con: The drug was administrated over a period of years.  A stranger,=20
especially one of Mr. Tilly's carnie clients, would be fairly conspicuous=20
hanging around a small town.

5. Mrs. Tilly's relatives.  There are three of them around--two aunts and a=
n=20
uncle.=20
Pro:  Their motive would be revenge for Mrs. Tilly's death.  If they had=20
keys, it's plausible that one of them could hide in the locked bedroom=20
containing Mrs. Tilly's coffin, and sneak out at night to put the drug in M=
r.=20
Tilly's food.  Hearing her (I'm assuming it's an aunt, since Mr. Tilly says=20
her footsteps sound like his wife's) Mr. Tilly and Julius think she's Mrs.=20
Tilly's ghost.  After Mr. Tilly dies, the key to the locked bedroom is=20
missing; if one of Mrs. Tilly's relatives stole it, this explains why it's=20
gone.  Also, Mrs. Tilly's relatives take a number of valuables out of the=20
house, but don't even ask to look in the locked bedroom containing Mrs.=20
Tilly's coffin.  One explanation might be that they already know what's in=20
there.  They also let Julius continue running the pharmacy at a very genero=
us=20
wage, and let him live rent-free in the house.  Maybe they're trying to bri=
be=20
him just in case he suspects something.
Con: They could be letting him live rent-free because the house has a=20
reputation for being haunted, and there's nobody else who'd rent it.  And=20
they could have continued letting him work at the pharmacy for the generous=20
wages that Mr. Tilly gave him because they don't want the town's only=20
pharmacy closed, and they're either too nice to reduce his wages, or don't=20
realize how generous they're being.  Also, you'd think it'd be a lot safer =
to=20
sneak into Mr. Tilly's house in daytime when he was at the drugstore, and i=
f=20
for some reason the aunt was surprised by Mr. Tilly coming home unexpectedl=
y,=20
you'd think she'd hide in the locked bedroom until she could leave the hous=
e,=20
and not pace up and down the hall like a ghost.  Finally, I've been thinkin=
g=20
about Blaine's explanation about how somebody could look out a window and n=
ot=20
be seen by hiding under the window, twitching the curtain, and looking in a=20
mirror on the opposite wall.  It'd certainly work on the first floor (where=20
Blaine presumably would have used it) but I'm not sure it'd work on the=20
second, which is where Julius saw the window curtains twitch. =20

6. Julius Smart.
This is the most interesting one.
Pro: He has a motive: money.  Charlie Turner (the dog-boy) shows up to visi=
t=20
when Weer was president.  We can assume that he is trying to visit Julius,=20
and hadn't heard about his death.  If he was visiting because he needed mor=
e=20
of the hair medicine, then it would seem that Julius took over Mr. Tilly's=20
carnie business.  In this case, you don't need to assume that Mr. Tilly's=20
wages were excessively generous to explain how Julius got enough money to b=
uy=20
Bledsoe's drugstore--Julius could be lying so as to have an acceptable=20
explanation for his money.  And if he killed Mr. Tilly, then he's lying abo=
ut=20
a lot more than that.  In this scenario, how much of Julius's story can we=20
trust?  From Charlie Turner's visit, we have independent evidence of Mr.=20
Tilly's hair medicine, which I think means we can trust the account of=20
Julius's visit to the carnival and of Janet Turner's visit to the drugstore=
. =20
And even if Julius poisoned him, I'd tend to believe that Mr. Tilly was=20
petrified by his own medicine.  But I don't know how much of the rest of th=
e=20
story to believe in this case.
Was there a ghost?  A locked room?  A methanol-filled zinc coffin?

If Julius did poison Mr. Tilly, you'd expect there to be clues.  I'd expect=20
Wolfe to have hidden several inconsistencies in Julius's account, so a read=
er=20
discovering them could deduce that Julius was lying.  And, of course, upon=20
looking for them, I picked up a couple of things that look like=20
inconsistencies.  It's hard to tell whether they're Julius Smart's mistakes=
,=20
or Gene Wolfe's mistakes, or even whether they're mistakes at all.  Here th=
ey=20
are.

a) The season.  When Julius Smart goes grocery shopping, he picks up orange=
s,=20
which must be in season since he says they were locally grown and cheap.  M=
y=20
grandparents lived in Florida, and had an orange (and lemon) tree in the=20
backyard; these gave fruit in the winter.  Looking on the web, I found a pa=
ge=20
saying that domestic oranges were in season (depending on the variety) main=
ly=20
from October through April, and Weer got oranges for Christmas as a special=20
treat when he was a kid. The season may be even shorter if you restrict=20
yourself to the gulf coast.  However, on the day Julius buys the oranges,=20
it's still 90 degrees after midnight, which one would expect only happens=20
closer to summer.  If Julius poisoned Mr. Tilly over a course of several=20
months or a year, and his story was put together from several incidents ove=
r=20
this course of time, one might expect this type of inconsistency. =20

b) Mr. Tilly is very careful about not putting salt and pepper on his food,=20
and on one of the mornings he has only coffee, apparently because he's scar=
ed=20
to eat anything else.  But you'd think it would be just as easy to put the=20
poison in coffee, and that he'd realize this (although if he's as much of a=20
caffeine addict as I am, he might drink it anyway).

Con: It's rather disturbing to have doubt cast on the truth of the story of=20
Mrs. Tilly's ghost, and Julius's discovery of her body in the coffin.  Also=
,=20
unless I'm missing some, the clues about the inconsistency of Julius's stor=
y=20
are pretty thin. =20

A few final comments.  If Mrs. Tilly's ghost didn't poison Mr. Tilly, this=20
gives a nice symmetry to the book, with five mysterious deaths or=20
disappearances, one for each of the five sections: Bobby Black, Aunt Vi, Mr=
.=20
Tilly, the librarian, and the coldhouse kid.  Of course, the case could be=20
made that this count is somewhat arbitrary, since we're leaving out Doris=20
Mason's and Sherry Gold's deaths ... .  I would counter that the most=20
mysterious thing about Doris's death is why she is in the book in the first=20
place, and that Sherry's death occured long after Weer's.  Secondly, if=20
Julius did poison Mr. Tilly, this helps explain Weer's comment that Julius=20
Smart is really the central character of this book.

Finally, I just reread Seven American Nights (many thanks to Robert Borski=20
for his brilliant deciphering of it).  The never-staling bread in that stor=
y,=20
and the imitation frozen orange juice factory in Peace, make me wonder what=20
Wolfe's feelings towards his former profession really are. =20

Many thanks,

Peter (Stone Ox)


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